allgum4me
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Maybe a continuation of effects of Covid, honor box "frown" from the public?............I see so much abandonment across all lines of vending, I feel like the "Maytag repair man" working in the field now , just too old to get out of it (bulk vending) Glad you found what you were looking for.....one goes away, somebody else pops up!
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I find the them under "Candy for a Cause" website, same phone number and under "Contact" it lists the name "Sheridan Sytems" Maybe they downsized and re branded, I guess?
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100% in agreement there.....Super Sours, Lotsa Sours, Spree, Nerds Gum. Nitwitz candy wasnt gigantic sales wise, but I actually had customers ask for it and did fairly well in filling in for Runts, which is outta range for a quarter vend now anyways....cant really say I disliked any of Sweetworks products overall......
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I use the 8-flavor mix from DB, I haven't had a Sams box of 850 asst in years, however looking at my 1080 asst, all looks well/normal, maybe Sams club gum made with less regard to quality .... A&A gum so far has been worthwhile, no issues......yet. You mention charms, do they have a line of gum, DB/Concord own them as well, as my DB/Concord orders come from the Charms distribution center in Tennessee. I think back on it and I had gum from Ford & Carousel (same mfg. plant) yet my product seemed to vary with those folks?
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Are you guys seeing this in certain products or is it a just in general issue across the board? I agree with the "hard enough to break a windshield", have experienced that I can say... I guess just because I haven't had issues mentioned above, maybe a matter of time, at least now I wont be caught off guard. So far I guess I've been lucky, your last line says it all.
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Has taste or texture changed as well? I read in your previous post that you said that it is dull which is a dead-on temperature change result, at least in my 24 years of gumballology..... the shine or gloss comes from food grade carnuba wax also helps to keep gum and candy from losing their shape (body), If it's not causing complaints and its otherwise acceptable in its taste and chew, I wouldn't be terribly concerned. It opened all cases of my last order from DB, all gum is glossy, with the exception of a case of watermelon which had good bit of white powder (corn starch) on it (keeps gum from sticking together) again, what I saw on vender friends gum recently is temp change for sure.....again Im not a doctor of gum, but relating 24 years of seeing alot of it. If so inclined you can PM me for contact WHO can give you the scoop on it , guaranteed>
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I guess what ya see is what ya got.........maybe subjected to temperature changes during transit? Who knows what it's been subjected to going to Sams club. My DB/Concord comes to me on a refrigerated truck, so I am careful to quickly move it to the same temperature environment at my climate-controlled storage. Hopefully I won't see any of these issues in the future ..........hopefully you won't either. If you think it's bad enough, maybe call DB/Concord and at least get it on record so if it continues, you will have it on paper, so to speak. Maybe Gremlins in the process😁
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Agreed, I havent bought any from local Sams......fellow vendor brought this to my attention couple weeks back, I recd 45 cases two weeks ago, 15 of that 850 ct gum, no 850 Asst, I saw no issues with any of that shipment, except that the gum was fresh, vibrant candy shell,etc... I rec'd 20 cases of 1080 asst & 1080 ft mix, no issues with that either.....maybe some old stock???
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Is this Sams club 850 ct asst or on items (gum) from DB warehouse direct ship?
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Very cherry seems to go stale fairly quickly (stale, hard,chipping, etc) but I agree with NYC Candyman, they seem to fair better in a mix......I mix 850 ct Green Apple & Grape, always been a great seller for me. From what I have seen product wise lately, DB/Concord seems to have wrangled in their issues with shell chipping on Seedlings & Fancy Fruit, again top sellers for me .
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I was once told that Insurance is to CYA....Cover YOUR Assets, @ $ 300.00 a year hard to pass up, I would never do business without it, although no one has ever asked me if I carry it!
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Contact John Lander @ TR/DB Concord @610-308-7830, he will get you squared away with price list, catalog & account set up....FYI 500 lbs (about 32 ish boxes) of product will get you at or above that You can download product catalog on Tootsie Rolls /DB website for their selections/offerings and product weight & John will send you latest price list,,,,Just received two skids today from DB.
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Talking with Concord sales rep just Monday, talks with bringing back the SOS system for ordering thru Sams Club apparently fell thru......along with stocking the 850 Asst and CC, FOR NOW. A lot vagueness surrounding this debacle.....However you can order direct thru Concord/DB/Tootsie Roll via Sales Rep.......500 lbs equals free freight (about 35 ish cases)....dont know what your needing so that might be over kill. November brings prices increases of 10% for Gum & 15% on candy per rep........so might want to get it in early. Hope this helps!
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Hey Mike, been a while, ain't looking too sweet in the bulk world anymore, dont think I need to explain that in depth....Few things lately from my end..... DB/Concord had an ample supply of stock and received order exactly as quoted, no issues,had a price increase back in October as you know, Sweetworks order was smooth, price increase in January and free shipping is @ 1000 lbs, dropped a few good sellers for me, that being a couple of the 1080 ct, Super Sours (BIG seller for me) biggest loss incurred so far is Runts getting out of the bulk game (makes no sense) but Ferrrara has really beat up this item in their acquisition from Nestle and now onto Ford, doesnt look like they will entertain production on the Ford line for a bit to come.......and the amount of abandoned equipment is amazing, I've bought two routes for pennies on the dollar, not to mention all that have been given or they go to scrap pile... a year ago i had around 300 or so machines placeable in storage , now i'm nearly at 1200 & really close to out of storage area........I have had a giant increase in rack sales, but charity is struggling to reach 50% pre pandemic at best....I guess its either a time to get out or to expand so i'm too far in to back out now! Look forward to your insight, especially Ford's direction.
Willie
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Hey Willie, great to hear from you. I cleaned out the last of Ford's 1080 gumballs in November and I really doubt they will ever return to the bulk vending game. They have been struggling with staffing since the pandemic and it had not changed when I last spoke to them in November. According to Barb DeLeon at Ford they just don't make much money on the bulk and Big League Chew is their cash cow. That said I was talking to my local wholesaler and he said that he is now having trouble getting Big League Chew from them so who knows what's going on there. I will probably reach out to Barb in the next month to see what the future looks like or if there is one. I usually go through the above mentioned wholesaler for all of my Sweetworks products because it saves me on product storage but he had been having such a terrible time getting product from them in the last 6 months I actually talked to Sweetworks directly in November. Heather Wright told me then that they wouldn't be manufacturing any bulk until December and even that was subject to change/delay. I scrambled and was able to pick up a bunch of Lotsa Sours from Barb at Ford along with some other Sweetworks stuff they had on hand. Just Born is also on a bulk hiatus until sometime this spring so I've been trying to stretch out my Mike & Ike's inventory as well.
In regards to equipment I have been slowly selling off obsolete stuff acquired through route purchases for the last year and a half. I use a flea market booth that handles the sales and run Craigslist ads to promote it. I have sold a couple hundred machines doing this and freed up some space. At this point I am not buying anything else. I actually sold a good size chunk of my long distance business (locations over 2 hours away) to a competitor last year and then I bought another Fordway vendor's closer route that was a mess. Got it cleaned up and running well now. I'm just going to stay in a holding pattern right now. I am really concerned about cost and availability of product going forward.
My charity sales have been stable. I also placed about 80 single gumball set ups in November/December and have really been happy with their performance. I have really been focusing my locating in the Latino and Burmese/Asian communities in my city. Great people to work with, they protect my equipment, and cash is still king in their circles.
1200 machines in storage!!!! Wow!!! You should be good on parts for the long haul. As I said above I am in a holding pattern. The guy that bought my other stuff would probably buy me out if I wanted to work out a deal with him but honestly I am hesitant to pursue it. I'm still making money and still enjoy what I am doing but the uncertainty of the future is really disconcerting to me. So for now I will continue on as usual and continue to put out machines (I probably have 100 that need locations). Thanks again for reaching out and as always it was great talking to you. Take care.
Mike
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PM me for info please, Thanks
