bulkjake Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I have lost 5 high revenue bulk toy locations (over $700 in gross monthly revenue lost) due to ADA lawyers coming into liquor store or other stores and slapping the owner of the store with a huge list of things that need to be fixed as well as huge fines - (handicap walkways, counter tops too high, isle ways not wide enough...) and last but not least, the ADA is writing them up for my machines. They are claiming the Oak / A&A 1" machines are illegal because they are difficult to turn or rotate the handle for a handicap person or child. This is a completely bogus claim as my equipment is not mandatory to use like a restroom or drinking fountain. Has anyone run into this? Specifically in California? I have tried to fight every instance but, in most cases the owners just want the equipment gone at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 golpher golpher scumbag lawyers Sue them for lying because you don't need to comply because they aren't part of the building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makes Cents Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Its a scam thats going up and down the state. There has been 14,000 lawsuits filed in the state in the last few years. California has additional requirements above and byond the national ADA. Mainly the law allows for compensation from private business so lawyers sue and then settle for cash from the business to make it go away. Even cities are getting sued and paying these guys off which just encourages it. There is almost no way to comply with ADA regs. completely. How to you design a space that a deaf, blind, paralyzed, amputee, ms afflicted, brain damaged, etc person can use with equal access. There have been national guidelines established but, again, this is California. http://www.adaabuse.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Cities Vending Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makes Cents Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I just had a thought. In California gas stations are compliant by having notices that any handicapped person may have assistance from staff fueling their vehicle. What if you put similar notices on your racks. Something like ' To comply with ADA regulations, any handicapped person(s) may have assistance from staff who will assist with using this machine'. You'd have to get it printed including braille. Owners wont mind as it shows they are attempting to comply. In fact they may want to use similar notices on soda fountains, buffets etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The only real ADA issues you should have to deal with in bulk is if you are preventing the 36 inch requirement by your machine in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musser Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Nothing to do with the ADA, Everything to do with Lawyers. This is a real issue in California. Its not just vending or the ADA but vendors have been easy targets for scam law firms to hit because the victims pay up quickly. Yep probably illegal but also expensive to fight, thus the payoffs and the profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musser Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 You could also check the California Vexatious Litigation List for a history of harassment by the law firm. But again you are talking about a gum ball machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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