huynhhh Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Been looking all over the internet but haven't found one.. The seller is telling me it is a seaga 4 head but I can't even did a picture online.. Does anyone know anything about this machine or what it's even really called? Thanks in advanced http://tinypic.com/r/30kblew/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayouvending Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I have a machine like that. It had different style coin mechs and did not have chute doors. It was my second machine never did figure out what it was for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 I have a machine like that. It had different style coin mechs and did not have chute doors. It was my second machine never did figure out what it was for sure. How did it work? Was it any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 What ever it is, don't buy it It's an of brand and no many have seen it for a reason- it's low quality Also parts availability is a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayouvending Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The coin mechs were crap broke and free dispensed. I replaced them with northwestern 50 cent mechs with toys on two and .25 on the other two haven't had any other issues with it. It is a pain to change out product. I'll try to take a picture of it when I service it next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 What ever it is, don't buy it It's an of brand and no many have seen it for a reason- it's low quality Also parts availability is a nightmare I'm buying 3 for 200$.. Pricy but here in Canada it's hard to get cheap machines. The guy I'm buying from is throwing in free spare parts since he has over 30.. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Run! Run far and fast! It looks like a machine I was given and threw it away with in a few months. I'd you bought 2 oaks used on eBay, or direct from the manufacturer, ( they have recon machines right now) and paid for the Can mech's, you would have a machine that lasts longer than you. Lol! I used to get equipment like that and our always was more hassle than it was worth. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Run! Run far and fast! It looks like a machine I was given and threw it away with in a few months. I'd you bought 2 oaks used on eBay, or direct from the manufacturer, ( they have recon machines right now) and paid for the Can mech's, you would have a machine that lasts longer than you. Lol! I used to get equipment like that and our always was more hassle than it was worth. Just my opinion. Running on a tight budget unfortunately.. Just spent 1600 on buying a 3 location route.. (Super expensive) but I have to get my feet wet quick to gain credibility.. Can't afford 100 dollar machines quiet yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Running on a tight budget unfortunately.. Just spent 1600 on buying a 3 location route.. (Super expensive) but I have to get my feet wet quick to gain credibility.. Can't afford 100 dollar machines quiet yetI don't know how the shopping or anything is, but they have the panel head for 37.00 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think it's the newer version of the Uni-vend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musser Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 1600 on a three machine route ?!?! And how much money does this route make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindVending Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Are these 3 machines located in disney land? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Running on a tight budget unfortunately.. Just spent 1600 on buying a 3 location route.. (Super expensive) but I have to get my feet wet quick to gain credibility.. Can't afford 100 dollar machines quiet yet SLOW DOWN huynhhh! Why the rush? And why the need for immediate "credibility" so early in your vending career? You say you "can't afford 100 dollar machines quite yet". In truth, what you "can't afford" is buying low-quality machines. Here are 2 lessons every successful vendor must learn: Buying crap machines is not worth the savings on the front-end. It's much easier to succeed in vending using good quality equipment than it is using poor quality equipment. Some vendors learn lessons 1 and 2 through experience. They toil through the expense and aggravation first-hand. Other vendors avoid the hassle and learn lessons 1 and 2 by listening to the advice of those veterans with experience. How will you choose to learn these lessons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Are these 3 machines located in disney land? Wow! The 3 machines make around 110$ per cycle, but one of the locations that make the most has potential to make more, the person I'm buying from lives an hour away from the three location I'm purchasing, and only services once a month, and said that if I service a bit more often than that, I'll can make more $ as sometimes product is actually sold out. According to his last 7 services, all locations average out 110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 SLOW DOWN huynhhh! Why the rush? And why the need for immediate "credibility" so early in your vending career? You say you "can't afford 100 dollar machines quite yet". In truth, what you "can't afford" is buying low-quality machines. Here are 2 lessons every successful vendor must learn: Buying crap machines is not worth the savings on the front-end. It's much easier to succeed in vending using good quality equipment than it is using poor quality equipment. Some vendors learn lessons 1 and 2 through experience.They toil through the expense and aggravation first-hand. Other vendors avoid the hassle and learn lessons 1 and 2 by listening to the advice of those veterans with experience. How will you choose to learn these lessons? Graduating Highschool next year, times being tough I'm also working a part time job on weekends, need $ for university, do you think the route is too expensive, even if I can make back the money in about a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Graduating Highschool next year, times being tough I'm also working a part time job on weekends, need $ for university, do you think the route is too expensive, even if I can make back the money in about a year? Personally, if you make your money back inside of a year in any business venture, I think you are doing great. So, I'm not going to crap on the deal. But, temper your expectations by the experiences of veteran vendors. The fact is, you will make very little money in this industry during the start-up unless you have a lot of money to invest from the get-go. And the "start-up" phase can last months or years depending on many many different factors. This is not a get-rich quick venture. A bulk vending business grows slowly as you pour the modest profits back into the business every month to add more equipment and/or locations as you go. The rate of growth for your bulk vending business narrows even further if some of the profits are siphoned off to fund other things (like college). So, I encourage you to pursue this venture. Just keep your financial goals realistic as you grow the business. And put some of your profits back into the route to keep it growing. If at first you only get to keep a little bit of money to help pay for textbooks, meals, or some other minor university expense, don't be discouraged. Look at this as a long term endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Personally, if you make your money back inside of a year in any business venture, I think you are doing great. So, I'm not going to crap on the deal. But, temper your expectations by the experiences of veteran vendors. The fact is, you will make very little money in this industry during the start-up unless you have a lot of money to invest from the get-go. And the "start-up" phase can last months or years depending on many many different factors. This is not a get-rich quick venture. A bulk vending business grows slowly as you pour the modest profits back into the business every month to add more equipment and/or locations as you go. The rate of growth for your bulk vending business narrows even further if some of the profits are siphoned off to fund other things (like college). So, I encourage you to pursue this venture. Just keep your financial goals realistic as you grow the business. And put some of your profits back into the route to keep it growing. If at first you only get to keep a little bit of money to help pay for textbooks, meals, or some other minor university expense, don't be discouraged. Look at this as a long term endeavor. Yes, I agree, I thought the 1600 is a good deal, since it could be potentially paid off in a year or a bit less, and it gives me some credibility in ways where I can tell businesses that I have other machines set up already so I don't sound like some nutjob. Yeah, I've been looking like crazy for machines but all average out to be 60ish dollars even vendstars! Due to Canadian shipping.. Looking into vendstars then spray painting black to give a clean look. Have you got any machines for sale? Luckily I have a "mentor" I'm a manager in a arcade and the owner likes me a lot and has been giving me useful advice in terms of locating (he did vending for a little before he bought an arcade) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The three location average a combined $110. How are you paying off $1600 in a year? Remember now, only the net can be counted toward ROI. So what's left of that $110 after you pay for the product in the machines, gas, taxes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 The three location average a combined $110. How are you paying off $1600 in a year? Remember now, only the net can be counted toward ROI. So what's left of that $110 after you pay for the product in the machines, gas, taxes, etc. No taxes but it would probably be guesstimating around 80-100.. Is that a reasonable guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Are you asking if $80-$100 is a reasonable estimate of net from $110 gross? If so, no. It'll be approximately 1/2 that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huynhhh Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Are you asking if $80-$100 is a reasonable estimate of net from $110 gross? If so, no. It'll be approximately 1/2 that. Wow.. I never realized that.. Is that usually normal..? I'm running peanut m&ms, skittles, m&i's and Reese pieces Are you asking if $80-$100 is a reasonable estimate of net from $110 gross? If so, no. It'll be approximately 1/2 that. Wow.. I never realized that.. Is that usually normal..? I'm running peanut m&ms, skittles, m&i's and Reese pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindVending Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Potentially lower if your vending to many pm&ms and reese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Wow.. I never realized that.. Is that usually normal..? I'm running peanut m&ms, skittles, m&i's and Reese pieces That's normal. It's probably the single biggest reason the vast majority of vending careers are so short; the assumption that gross minus product costs = money in my pocket. In truth, cost of goods is usually only 40-50% of your total expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm running peanut m&ms, skittles, m&i's and Reese pieces You need to add gumballs, gumballs, and more gumballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I used to ruin identically what you are currently and recently changed to gumballs in almost every location! What I found was not only do they usually out sell everything else, but they are cheaper by a huge margin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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