The Back Rubber and The Back Massager?
Posted December 11 2009 - 08:30 AM
Thoughts? Experience? Kinda cool if you ask me!
Posted December 11 2009 - 11:02 AM
The problem with them (from what I've seen) is that people just sit in them, without putting in any money. And they have their fat butts plonked there for a LONG time, and your machine isn't making any money during that time.
Unless I could get them for $200-300, I wouldn't bother. They could easily be vandalized, too.
Posted December 11 2009 - 02:44 PM
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Posted December 13 2009 - 12:42 AM
I have two in my laundromat. The return on investment on them was 86 days. I have had them for over 2 years. I use them as promos for customers on the newsletter.
That's an incredible return on investment !!!
What brand chairs do you have? Have you had any service issues?
I have a location these might work well in...
Posted December 13 2009 - 12:57 AM
I see people sitting in these all the time at the mall but rarely earning.poppafish must have lots of tired and achy people doing laundry
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Posted June 20 2013 - 08:06 PM
I have a lot of experience with the vending massage chairs. I have been in the business since 2007. I have had both positive and negative experiences with the chairs like any business. I have dealt with both The Back Rubber and The Back Massager.
The Back Rubber is a real compay with real employees, a real warehouse, a real technical support guy, and a multi millionaire owns the business. They used to have a really good chair until they switched brands sometime a few years ago. The new chair doesn't give nearly the same massage as the previous one, and they don't make as much money. But working with The Back Rubber is great. They always do the right thing. The support & parts are good, tech support is good, and the company is run well.
The Back Massager is a guy who used to work at The Back Rubber who sort of stole their idea and started doing it on his own. He pretty much even copied their website entirely. He sells chairs out of his home garage. He doesn't have the overhead or any employees so he can sell the chairs cheaper. From what I can gather, he has a full time job other than selling the massage chairs and reaching him is unreliable sometimes. I don't like the look of his chairs as much. But they are cheaper.
Both companies sell chairs from Taiwan, so both chairs hold up pretty much the same. The Back Rubber just feels more comfortable to me. It's a real company with solid financial backing and they have been around for a long time. A guy selling chairs on a part time basis, who stole their idea kind of seems shady to me. So I have bought nearly all of my chairs from the back rubber. I actually bought 4 of them off eBay also but they were Back Rubber chairs. That would be a great way to go if they are in good shape.
The Back Rubber is A+ on the BBB and The Back Massager is not rated. Kind of tells the story right there.
As far as the business goes, it's great with good locations. It sucks with bad locations. I have had chairs do up to $600 a month, and I have had chairs do as little as $7 a month. I have had to move locations 3-4 times for certain chairs. I have had a few great locations that have gone out of business. I have lost 2 chairs that way. Company went out of business and stole my chairs!
I would say the average chair is about $60/month take-home. Your average chair is probably a 2 year return on investment. Not terrible. I go in usually once every 2 months to pick up the money. Split it 50/50 with the owners. It's minimal time that I'm investing. I have over 20 chairs, and I probably make $10K per year off them. They're all 100% paid for right now and the ones I've had 6 years have paid for themselves many times over. I'm done buying the chairs at this point. My 22 chair route is more than enough for me. I paid a total of $32K or so for all of the chairs, paid about $3500 or so in locator fees as well. I learned after awhile that it's easy to locate them yourself. Very easy, actually. You don't need a locator unless you're super lazy. Most places will take it if they have the space. I've had business owners almost doing cartwheels when I asked them if I could bring one in. One gym owner was so excited that he offered me a free membership if I could bring in 2. Unfortunately, they only made like $30/month.
This has become a very long post but I had a lot to share about the various companies and my massage chair business experience. It's a good business. You won't get rich, but you should be able to double your investment in 4 years. I would say in 6 years, I have probably made $60K profit for pretty damn minimal work once they're placed.
Posted June 21 2013 - 12:09 AM
Posted November 4 2013 - 01:25 PM
My name is Vincent Cami I am the proud owner of The Back Massager. This blog was just brought to my attention and thought I would reply. I am unsure who made the comment above but before they make assumptions they should know the facts. We've been in business since 2009 now over 4 years with no complaints. All of our customers are totally satisfied with our service and product. We sell the same exact chair as our competior for a lower price because we don't have the overhead. Listen we can go rent a warehouse and hire employees and then increase the price for you if you want? Yes I use to work with our competior and found their method of running this business not to my liking so I started my own business. I am retired from NYC Dept of Corrections and do not have a full time job, this business is at my full attention. If you need referrals please contact us. We've received a lot of compliments on our chairs. If you have any questions please visit our website www.thebackmassager.com. We are listed with the BBB and we chose not to be accredited because we are a business opportunity not a franchise. We have no complaints listed with the BBB.