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  1. 5 points
    Didn't have to say anything bad about Canteen. Just went in, gave him my proposal and told them what I could do for them. He said he had already talked to 3 other vending companies. I let him talk and tell me what he didn't like. I left and about 30 minutes later he call, I got the account.
  2. 3 points
    Don't do it. Offices, especially ones with free items are notoriously bad locations. Also, with just one snack machine you will have a mountain of stales. Plus, you'll have to deal with extra bullshit from your cow-orkers and you'll be jeopardizing a relatively sweet gig at a software company.
  3. 2 points
    If I'm running gumballs I'm good with 5 a month, I'll service every 6 months. Buy another machine and look for another location.
  4. 2 points
    Good thing your guesses are for amusement, Chris. Long and short pulse interfaces are in bill acceptors, not coin mechs. The pulses are dependent on how the machine or coin mech can interpret the dollar credit pulse from any given bill validator. This is primarily dependent on the coin mech's capabilities or the type of harness you're using between the mech and validator or machine and validator. A simple single connection will be different from a more complex dual connection. This is most noticeable in Mars validators where you can connect the validator with just the 9 pin white connector in some cases or with the 9 pin and 18 pin black communication connector in others. The short pulse length is 30ms and the long pulse is 50ms. Those pulse "widths" are determined by the components on the validator circuit board and in the coin mech or machine logic board and they must always match or the credit is not passed along. Because so many devices or components can be connected in various ways is the reason that there is such a variety of harnesses out there. MDB solved this with a single communication protocol for all manufactures to follow and you can see how it has simplified everything.
  5. 2 points
  6. 2 points
    Yeah...maybe sell them for 300... if he is lucky Another one : https://www.kijiji.ca/v-commercial-industriel/longueuil-rive-sud/offre-du-manufacturier/1302489735?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true Bottled water vending machine with a beaver Looney mechanism.What is this ? My brain hurts It says in french : Protected territory ! Yes your area is favorable ! ( what the f*uck that even means ? )
  7. 2 points
  8. 2 points
    Change your escrow setting in the programming.
  9. 2 points
    Stick to cans only starting out. Easier to handle and you'll get better deals on those locally. I actually find it easier to locate soda machines than gumball machines. You're going to pay quite a bit for a locator and there is no way of knowing how well it's going to do. Its the same with bulk locating, but your looking at probably $300-500 for one location. A far as machines to use, I think the easiest to start with and learn on its a Dixie Narco. Royals are awesome(my favorite actually) but they can have some programming that might seem complicated to someone starting out. I'd say find yourself a clean used Dixie narco 501e and you'll be set on equipment. I can usually find them for around $500 or less in my area.
  10. 2 points
    The first thing to note is that the prices you are seeing are specific to the specific locations you go to. Your local costco might be one price whereas a different costco is a different price. Around here, I have 3 local Sam's Clubs (all within 25 miles) and 1 local Costco (about 25 miles away). The prices are fairly similar with cost hovering around $11.00 per 35 or 36-pack. Yes, you can go to walmart and pay $6.00 for a 24-pack and save a lot of money, but what you may not realize is that going to walmart to buy soda is not a realistic option when you go through hundreds of cases every week. For example, I probably go through an average of 12 cases of cans in a day (wild guess). 12 cases would require me to fill an entire shopping cart full at walmart, stand in line for maybe 30 minutes, and STILL have to go somewhere else to buy my snacks. I don't have the time to go back and forth to walmart. Furthermore, if I shopped solely at walmart, I could easily wipe their shelves out periodically and that would take a chain of grocery carts to do so. I don't know if they would do it or not, but I suppose a manager could turn me down if he found out I was selling it. Maybe not but who knows... it's a HUGE hassle to deal with that. Another thing you don't realize is that the price they quoted you is the price whether you pick it up or whether it is delivered to you (I don't think they charge for delivery). Again, when you are large enough to go through hundreds of cases in a week, it is VERY inconvenient to go out and pick it all up at walmart. Going to Sam's or Costco is much easier because they have flatbeds and I could even have them put it on a skid if I wanted. That is generally not an option at walmart. At Vistar (or any other distributor that delivers), I could have that same order delivered to me if I have a place that is zoned for business. That means I can skip the stores altogether and just focus on loading the truck with what I need for the day and move on. Lastly, the cans they send are for resale. Yes, it's the exact same stuff from walmart but Pepsi/Coke charges more when it's sold for resale, which is an issue when you go to walmart. I don't have to pay sales taxes when I go to most places because I have a vendor's license, and messing with that at walmart is a pain, so I end up paying sales tax twice when I go to walmart (once at checkout, and again when I pay sales tax to the state UNLESS I keep perfect record keeping on my receipts). So.. in conclusion.. you are paying for CONVENIENCE. If you are too small to need something like vistar and you can afford the time to go to walmart for just a few cases, then by all means go do that!!! You just aren't at a place where you go through enough volume to find something like vistar to be worth your money. When you have a large route, having your product delivered sounds temping even if the prices are a little higher. If you keep your prices on par with the rest of the market in your area, you don't have to worry about paying a little more.
  11. 2 points
    While ice cream profits are high, mistakes and breakdowns are expensive and smelly. With that many machines are you willing to dedicate another vehicle and driver to do this?
  12. 2 points
    My wrecking moving crew would have that thing mangled within a month. The ad states the maximum load on 2 wheels is 600 lbs and 800 lbs on 4 wheels.
  13. 2 points
    Yes, but when it says appliance truck it means appliance truck. There's no way I would move a soda machine with anything other than a Dutro Brawny Brute.
  14. 1 point
    The gasket does not go between the wheel and brush off. The gasket is used on the 300 and 450 between the globe and the brush off.
  15. 1 point
    It has an F80 board in it so you should have an MDB harness inside. Check for a 6-pin plug inside the machine... If you have trouble finding it, look at the plug coming out of the coin mech. if it has 6 pins then you likely have something like a 9302-GX coin mech which verifies that everything is hooked up for MDB. If that's the case, any MDB validator will work. I recommend getting a refurbished 2502/2512 or a 2702/2712 but a MAG32SA will work. Just a note.. that machine should be able to install a card reader but I don't know if it will report dex sales. That may not be important to you and I might be wrong, but all that means is that a credit card report from a company such as USA Technologies might only show daily card sales but not cash sales, which means that you won't know exactly how much money the machine is doing until you show up. That only matters if you are trying to monitor it. If you just want the card reader for card acceptance (in addition to cash acceptance), and no other reason such as telemetry, then having dex information is not important.
  16. 1 point
    In your situation, it would be totally worth it to upgrade the board and go MDB and drop sensors if you can afford it.
  17. 1 point
    Weekly update: 260 locations. Grossed $1,760.00 Avg $22.55 per box. theft ran 9%, serviced 72 boxes.
  18. 1 point
    Been workin on some USI's eh?
  19. 1 point
    I know a couple of people that have lots of scales. Both of these folks use imports that cost around $200 new. Battery life about 18months, cash boxes are large and they service about once a year. Locations vary in income of course but I think they were averaging about $200 a year, after refining the route. I have seen new scales sold for over $1000 but as I noted the import cost was around $200. If you can get real verification of income (the Gross amount) you can do some real evaluation. I never pay any attention to "net" or "profit" they are meaningless because very business has a unique process that delvers different results. I had the opportunity to buy a scale route once I bought cranes instead. If you are going to make an investment that big buy cranes or merchandisers.
  20. 1 point
    If I can't win win at least I get to be a PITA
  21. 1 point
    That's good, because you won't have any.
  22. 1 point
    I won't need to start any WR's to beat your poor excuse for a football team
  23. 1 point
    This is why I was wondering if there were teams that didn't have actual managers. An active manager who doesn't properly fill their line up has to live with those mistakes. It's the same as when an NFL coach calls the wrong play. Each player (manager) needs to be on top of their own line up. It's part of the game. It just seems like this league is not very active anymore. How many people actually participated in the draft? It's pretty lame....
  24. 1 point
    Based on gross per machine, the only viable route would be #3. However, I would not pay 92% of gross sales unless the machines are 3 years old or newer.
  25. 1 point
    That's a nice come up right there 👍
  26. 1 point
    Jump on them. Take your truck and your money and get all 4. Ev3n if you can't use them all you can turn them for more.
  27. 1 point
    Where did Richard get you locations? You don't have to be specific, just the cities or towns will do. I'm asking mostly because this was your first post, and I always find it interesting when the first post is a review
  28. 1 point
    $1000-1500 if MDB and it has updated gates, product pushers and working drop sensors. And if cooling properly.
  29. 1 point
    I got a really good location by taking a picture of canteens machines and prices and showing them what to expect. This is war!
  30. 1 point
    Do you want me to push the "red button" & put your sorry excuse for a football team out of it's misery
  31. 1 point
  32. 1 point
    I have 8 machines in a location because of a Gumball Coaster. Always out of order.
  33. 1 point
    They removed that feature from the admin. You have to email support to do the preauth amount. Any item priced over the preauth amount won't vend.
  34. 1 point
    As someone who’s career is paint. 90% of your problems with paint come from improper prep. A surface must always be clean, dry and dull.
  35. 1 point
    Please only post your questions one time and in the proper forum. I already answered this for you in the Golpher Hole but this question only belongs in the Beverage and Food sub forum. Thank you.
  36. 1 point
    Well I'll be. That did the trick. No telling how long it'll last, but I'm not touching those wires again. I had to unplug them and re plug the board side twice for it to work. Thank you, this means I won't spend my weekend irked by it.
  37. 1 point
    PM me your mailing address and I'll send you a used one. This part is eliminated during an In-One upgrade so I otherwise throw them away. It's also possible your keypad has failed since that one is likely 30 years old.
  38. 1 point
    Welcome to TVF. If you search this site for healthy vending, you'll find that we don't recommend it. Most customers lose interest very quickly. On the other hand, I have been selling Snicker bars since 1980.
  39. 1 point
    That cannot be brand new. It is refurbished at best. If you got it from ebay, you might want to return it under the grounds that it isn't taking nickels. They'll likely repair it and send it back.
  40. 1 point
    They certainly are nice. I was going over them post-purchase and can't believe how good a deal I got. They are in great shape. I can see myself stocking them for years to come.
  41. 1 point
    A lot of spare parts and possibly a lost account. Just say no, even with updates.
  42. 1 point
    I didn't actually read the details of the lifts so I didn't see that they will enable self-loading. I don't know if you'll find that feature here. If you need to load machines on a truck or load the lift itself then invest in a Tommy Lift for your truck. It is purpose built and will outwork any fancy lift like this. Then you can put your money in less expensive equipment like a Dutro and short pallet jack.
  43. 1 point
    I used a couple different magliners for almost 4 years before I got into business for myself. They were great and very strong, but this convertible dolly I got at Sam's Club for something like $79 or $99 has done just as good of a job as the magliners did in the past. In all fairness, the magliners were much older and took way more abuse regularly, but for the money the cheap stuff works well. Moving machines is a different animal though... I am just interested in a cheap solution that I can take to make moves go faster when I pay the mover to do it, or a solution I can do for small jobs within the same building.
  44. 1 point
    Checking for continuity/resistance. You should have continuity (Connection) between the 2 terminals on the switch when the switch is in its normal state. You should have no continuity when the switch is pressed.
  45. 1 point
    Yeah... Look, if it's a good account, it's a good account, but knowing whether it's good or not is obviously the trick. Offices usually don't spend a lot of money. And when you say it's a large real estate office, I think of a large building with 20-30 people inside that actually work there, which would not be good numbers at all. And when you say uppity people, that sounds like they have uppity money and they can afford to have food catered in or they like to eat out, which can be bad things for vending. I'm not trying to discourage you from your ventures, but it's important to figure out the criteria for a good account and make sure you don't over invest. Starting off with a soda and a snack is a must. If you sold them on the credit card idea, then you should leave it at that and make sure your prices are good (meaning .. they are profitable for you). What you don't want to do is offer to invest thousands and thousands of dollars on a customer where you might never make your money back just because you want customers. "Uppity" offices can be tricky because people in those environments feel entitled to the best machines and the best equipment and sometimes the lowest prices because.. anything "too expensive" is just another reason for them to save their $1.00 on that snack and go spend $12 at panera bread instead. Having a card reader might help sales though. Unless I was dealing with a LEGIT big account, which the veterans know what I am talking about, I wouldn't ever deal with a refrigerated machine UNLESS it was a refrigerated combo machine that was used for soda in addition to food (and maybe snacks too). Again, I am not trying to discourage you, but if you bought say.. a refurbished bottle vendor, refurbished snack with drop sensor and all of the bells and whistles, and a refurbished glassfront food machine, you would easily be looking at $5,000-$6,000. If the account is anything like what I just mentioned.. with 20-30 people on site full-time (you can't count on people who are gone all day), then you would be LUCKY to get $100/week in sales or $5,000/year in gross sales.. and even luckier to make $2,000/year in profits. It would easily take 3 years to break even in a perfect scenario, but the more likely scenario is that you have a refrigerated glassfront that sees very little sales and plenty of expired products. In fact, given the circumstances, you might be better off starting with a refurbished combo machine that vends bottles (such as an AMS food/combo, or a USI alpine) and have it setup for mostly snacks and bottles and see how it does. If they kill it, then you can add a snack and/or a soda machine. If they don't kill it, you've only purchased one machine which they might be happy with... However, the account could potentially be pretty bad. You really need to answer cvending's question.. how many people? You might be guilty of what rookies do and look for what you perceive as a "big place" or "big company" or whatever else. I don't want to sound like I think you are dumb. I don't think that about you. But as a rookie, you might not really "get it" yet. If you see a very large factory, you might think that they make a lot of money because.. hey.. it's a big building and they probably have a lot of people. But that might be a shipping/receiving place where only 15 people work with half in an office and there's a gas station across the street where they can buy everything. That account wouldn't make much money at all. You might see a doctor's office with 60 cars in the parking lot and think "If everyone just bought one snack..." Nope, that account probably won't do that well. You might see a corporate office of some large company and think "What's bigger than the corporate office of a large company?" The answer? Their blue-collar productive facility. Here's the basics for you to know. All examples are snacks and soda only and no food or coffee or anything else. In my experience, office workers spend anywhere from 75 cents to $2.00 per worker per week.. so an office of 50 people might spend anywhere from $37.50 to $100/week in sales. $37.50/week isn't good and $100/week is alright, but they could be anywhere between there. Also, office workers are more picky about things. They are more demanding. They request things that they often won't buy, or they request things that don't exist because it makes them feel good about themselves because it's the thought that counts. If they want baked chips, that's because they want to feel good knowing there are healthy options in there.. but they might not actually buy them. It's all mental and it can cause you to lose a lot of money. They also feel like they deserve the best equipment because they have a nice office and they deserve nice things. Even if someone doesn't ever use the machines, they'll be upset if the machines don't look perfect. On the flip side, hot factory workers can do anywhere from $1.50 per person to $7.00 per person! A factory with 20 people, on the high end, could do well over $100/week in sales! That's not always the case, but it isn't unreasonable for the right location. A factory with 50 people is almost guaranteed to produce at least $100/week in sales. I have a location that's about 25/75 office/production (about 100 people). They used to only have about 10 production and 10 office and did about $25/week. Now they do more like $250/week. Part of the reason, I think, is because they are busier so break time is more difficult. Because of that, a lot of people rely on the machines for snacks and soda. Another reason for the increase is actually because of the card readers, but that wasn't an option at the previous location due to low sales. Another location of mine, which is one of my favorite locations, has about 13-15 employees and generates an average of about $100/week currently. Another location in a hot factory was a location I almost turned down... they have about 25 people between 2 shifts and they do about $100/week as well. I also have a county government building with maybe 20-30 staff and they do $30/week if that... They only reason I don't cancel them is because I have no room for the equipment. Oh, and another office building with about 35-40 workers that does about $40/week. Get the picture? In the past, I had a law office account that was located above the 10th floor of a large building. I think they had about 25 people in this law office and they generated something like $40/week in sales. I think the only reason I made more than I would have normally expected was because the elevator was slow and some of the lesser paid people couldn't really afford the time or money to go elsewhere. By the way, when you count people on location, you need to account for the people who are on SITE. Never include the people who are gone all or most of the day. One of my greatest disappointments was a location with some 75 workers.. but half of them are out in the field all day and sometimes don't even come back to the warehouse until the next day. They only do about $60/week. It would do much better even with the 35-40 people on site if not for the fact that there is a convenience store literally across the street. It takes all of 2 minutes to walk across the street and have a lot of variety.
  46. 1 point
    Short answer: there is no one, for the most part you are on your own. Long answer: Bill/coin jams are pretty straight forward and you should expect to deal with these, frequency will depend on number of machines and operating environment. Validators and Coin mechs are consumable items in this industry - easy enough to replace, annoying to have to buy - lot of us roll the dice on Fleabay - or any number of different refurb sellers on the web. ALWAYS UNPLUG OR TURN OFF MACHINE BEFORE PULLING APART CONNECTIONS - connecting "hot" leads can fry your logic board -ask me how I know..... Refrigeration repair is where I throw in the towel, I will replace a deck if I can find one fairly priced - but I have had to go out and find someone "certified" to re-charge cooling decks on location. Read the threads on this site specific to your machine, take pictures and come back and ask questions when you are stuck - Vendiscuss has save me a boatload of cash over the years helping with diagnosis of equipment problems. ABC
  47. 1 point
    Just a quick note to let everyone know that our DexLink app is now available on the Google Play Store. You can use it to download Dex files and integrate them with our VMS or another software provider via the VMS protocol. http://www.vendingmarketwatch.com/news/12220796/paylabs-dexlink-vms-is-now-available-for-android-mobile https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=paylab.dexlink.tablet&hl=en
  48. 1 point
    First of all, your coinco BA30 validator is, in fact, a 117v validator (aka 110v or 115v). However, to my understanding, those coincos were built to be MDB-capable. If you look at your validator, you should notice a harness adapter that is usually shaped like a Y and it plugs into two spots on the validator, enabling it to communicate via MDB. While I consider those model of bill acceptors to not be true MDB validators, it does work fine with the MDB adapter (as they were designed that way). With that said... once the adapter is plugged in and the MDB harness plugs into the adapter (the adapter that plugs directly into the bill acceptor), it is now running on "24 volts" (which can also be labeled sometimes as 27v or 34v). For clarification, we will only use 110v or 24v. Here is where it gets tricky. Your BA30 is a 110v bill acceptor (because the 0 in the "BA30" stands for 110v) but, if you had a BA32, it would be a 24v (because the 2 stands for 24v). But the 24v BA32 is NOT the same as a 24v MDB connection. You would, again, need to use that MDB adapter to enable the BA32 or BA30 to communicate via MDB. When MDB is not enabled (if you don't have the adapter), the validator automatically defaults to its regular voltage... in your case, it defaults to 110v which will work on many single-price machines that operate off 110v as well as machines such as AP 7000's that operate off of 110v. The reason why I went through all of that is because I need you to understand that 110v, 24v (non MDB) and MDB are 3 different things. MDB runs off of 24v, 27v, or 34v (and maybe some other voltages that I haven't seen). Unless someone corrects me on this, all you have to do is buy a mars 24volt validator (such as a MEI 2502 or 2512) and an MDB harness to go with that validator. So to answer your question.. yes, you need the correct harness to go with your MEI validator but it MUST end in 2 (2502, 2512, 2702, 2712). The validator does not really plug into the coin mech. The validator plugs into the MDB harness which the coin mech plugs into as well. Everything is communicating with the board when it's on MDB as MDB stands for Multi-Drop-Bus. Once you get the right validator AND the right harness (look for MEI MDB harness) then you will be good to go. By the way, all MDB works with other MDB (with rare exceptions from old modified equipment). Your coin mech may be running 24v MDB and your coin mech may be running 34v MDB but none of that matters as they are both MDB. This is why I mention, earlier, that 24v, 27v, and 34v are all kind of the same thing. The big confusing part is that you COULD have a 24v coin mech that is NOT MDB or you could have a 24v validator that is NOT MDB. They are not synonymous with each other, but MDB devices DO operate off of 24-34v. Again, you need an MEI validator that ends in a 2. You need an MDB harness for an MEI validator. And to make the validator accept 5's, you should specifically look for a validator that is advertised as being 2008 $5-ready. If the validator is flashable, it can be upgraded, but you should try to get one that already accepts 5's. Either ask someone on this forum such as AZVendor if he has an MEI validator that is $5-ready. If you want to check a place like ebay, look for an MEI 2512 updated for new 5's. You probably will need to buy the MDB harness separately though. Oh, and here's a quick tip about the numbers on MEI validators (to the best of my knowledge). On a validator such as the 2512, here is what the numbers stand for. The 2 almost certainly stands for 2000 series validator. The 5 probably just means it's the 5th generation or something along those lines. I have seen 24xx, 25xx, 26xx, and 27xx. The 1 usually means it's the larger bill box (which holds more bills, roughly 300). The 0 means it's the smaller bill box (probably 200). The 2 at the end means 24v. A 1 at the end would mean it's a 110v, such as a 2511.
  49. 1 point
    My input here, for what it may be worth, is that, in the beginning, if you are just concerned about proof of concept (i.e., you want to find out if bulk candy vending is something that you can do and want to do, and that it actually makes money), then it almost doesn't matter what machine you pick as a starter, as long as it functions and will be accepted into your target location. Pick the best looking machine that you can afford off of eBay and put it on location. If you like the results, save your profits until you can afford a Northwestern or Beaver, then repeat the process.
  50. 1 point
    A lot of uturn haters here, i think the biggest problem with them is simply a lot of operators dont know how to run, fix and service a large fleet of uturns. Sorry no disrespect intended but a lot of people here bagging them dont have large fleets and not a great deal of experience at all. I run a large fleet of unturns yes larger than on my profile and theres no way it takes 30 minutes to service an 8 select unless your incredibly slow, no experienced operator would ever fill a canister as the idea is to fill to a third to a half only so it gives the appearance of being used not necessarily product spoilage!. Terminators are a great machine to locate in a business where there is a lot of kids passing through as 4 of othe 8 canisters should be used for vending capsuled toys and bouncy balls and not candy. Hard dextrose candy can be used in some of the other 4 canisters and this product never spoils and lasts a long time. We have uturns sited in clusters within close proximity to each other, often 15 to 20 within minutes of each other. Sure they are loads of them for sale thats because inexperienced people wanting to enter the vending world overpay for them new and have no clue at all how to locate them...................i love these type of people, thats how we built our large uturn fleet by buying these types out reallly cheap!.


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