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  1. You need a bigger route. Way to much time on your hands
  2. First deal: Pay 140% of annual sales?- #nope. A food route that nets 45%? Not possible. 17 AMS machines? $34-$42K. Make a living or good income just on food vending? #nope. Second deal: Seaga machines? Not #nope but hail #nope. If you have $140K burning a hole in your pocket and want to get into this business, buy some regular snack and drink machines and do it right.
  3. Today we placed a machine in a restaurant and this is location 100! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. There just might be an idea here.
  5. Location, location, location. This is retail and it's no different in that respect. Start with can-only machines until you have an understanding of the business. You need 5 or more snack machines to control your stales. Blue collar accounts are always better than white collar. There, now you begin.
  6. Sounds like they did you a favor. Leave peacefully and find a new spot for your equipment.
  7. Some will read your sign as “This truck carries CASH and zero security” or “CASH ON BOARD ROB ME”
  8. I would prefer that people don't know what's in the truck, but the larger companies put some kind of logo on there. I do, however, want a magnet that I can put on the side of my truck when I am parked in a loading area. I don't think it's a bad idea. I think it is a good idea, but I have my preference. Does it look professional? 100% yes!! Does it get you calls? I don't know but I have my doubts. I just can't imagine too many people catching your number out on the road. They might see it, but will they read it? Will they be able to write it down or dial it before you drive off? Do people even pay attention? Lol. From my experiences, a large portion of people don't even realize that they aren't alone on the road.
  9. I have been in the cracker stacking business a long time. I have had employees steal money, wreak trucks,lock vending keys in machines, lose keys, fail drug test,call out of work with a hang over , I had to fire my cousin it made a large part of my family mad at me and to this day they will not talk to me. The worst employee was a middle age lady who worked for me we had a sheriff department account. I was called in the the sheriff office to watch a video of my route lady having relations with a prisoner and guess what I was picking up the machines the next day. vender 4321 let them drink a few drinks and eat a pack of crackers if that is the worst thing they do consider yourself a lucky person.
  10. Zip, zero, nada, 沒有, nichts, niente, rud ar bith, 何も, rien, ничего, niks, ništa, τίποτα.
  11. I have 3,000 USAT devices deployed and just bought 200 more. You made a good choice in my opinion.
  12. Beaver Machine Corporation is now offering a New Generation coin mechanism assembly that is compatible with Northwestern’s 80 series capsule vending machines and A&A Global’s capsule vending machines. Mechanism assemblies are available in 1, 2, 3 and 4 coin denominations for all countries currently being supplied to by Beaver. The prices in USD are as follows: Single Coin: $42.00 Double Coin: $49.50 Triple Coin: $54.50 Quad Coin: $54.50 The NG Northwestern 80 and A&A mech assembly will be sold as a complete package that includes the Beaver NG mechanism and adaptor. The current lead time is between 6 – 8 weeks so please be sure to contact your Sales Representative for pricing and availability.
  13. I use to let a lot of things get under my skin when I first went into this business. I built it to 3 routes nice warehouse and owed USI a whole lot of money with a un godly high interest rate 4 kids in school and college just around the cor nor. The employee situation was bad and the worst thing was this business was hurting my marriage. I made a hard decision to cut my loses keep my best accounts and dump the lowest profit locations and I became a one route operations.The day I did that was the best decision I ever made. Vending became fun again the hours are long but I get to talk to people on my accounts meet my wife for lunch and go to my grandson football practice and I do not sweat the small things like when you run out of orange Sunkist and you put orange fanta in its place and the location calls mad as heck . I just tell them the next week I will change it out with Sunkist just make this crazy business fun laugh cut up with the people at sam's club and joke around with the other fellow independent vendors in your area make friends with them and help them when you can.
  14. I know it adds up.. and trust me when I say this, I think the majority of vendors disagree with me so don't take my opinion as a mainstream opinion. Obviously, eating 5 snacks and 5 drinks a day definitely adds up. It certainly does. It could easily be over $8 if it were something that high, or $40/week or $2,000/year if they had 5 bottles of soda and about 5 various snacks each day. Having said that, I doubt everyone is consuming that much. But let's move onto my point... Eating that many snacks is a big deal, don't get me wrong, but I would assume we are talking about maybe 3 snacks and maybe 3 sodas each day, but again, not my point. My point is that IF your employees do a great job, you will save SO much more money. I mean, lets assume that a good employee prevents product from going out of date. Having 100 cans go out of date can easily cost $30+ Having 20 bags of chips go out of date can cost $6.50 (+/-). Everything adds up real quick. But that's just a minor cost. Losing one account that does $5,000/year in gross sales might cost you $1,000 in profit (wild guess). Losing one account that does $10,000/year could easily cost you over $2,000 in profit. On top of losing accounts, your business name can be tarnished, losing out on prospective new accounts because of a bad reputation. You have to spend time and resources looking for new accounts, etc... Don't get me wrong, abusing that many snacks and sodas is wrong, but I have always had the mindset that those snacks and sodas might be what really help the drivers get through the stresses of their day. If they make you lots of profits, then I don't really think it's that big of a deal that they give themselves an extra raise via snacks and soda. Stealing money is different, but even then... it's difficult to catch a GOOD thief and it's very difficult to replace a very good driver. So, if the drivers are GOOD, then you have to ask yourself... how much PROFIT do they really generate and how much are they actually consuming? Let's say you paid your driver $12/hour, 8 hours each day for a total of $96. They drink 4 cans of soda ($1.40), 2 bags of chips ($0.80), a candy bar ($0.65) and a pastry ($0.55). That adds up to $3.40. Yes, if they are drinking 4 energy drinks + a bunch of other snacks, then that will add up much more, but are you more worried about the $100 in profit they made you for the day or the $3.40 they took away from you? A bad driver can get your profits dropping FAST. Putting some kind of camera system will probably only cost you money, and I think a driver would hate the idea of having someone always looking over their shoulder, whether they are honest or not. It just seems petty (to me) that someone would be upset over an employee getting some snacks. Now, if they are bringing a boat load of snacks home each day, then that's a different problem. Plus, are you SURE they didn't buy any of those snacks out of the machine? I kid you not, I was questioned before about what I had in my trash box way back in the day, and I made it a point to tell them that I bought about half of what I purchased, or I at LEAST put 50% of the retail price in the machine (ie. I ate a $2.00 hamburger and put $1.00 in the machine). I was allowed to have stuff for free, but I figured no one would care if I paid the actual cost of it. In hindsight, I probably cost the company less than other people did. I just don't like it when someone is worried about what *I* cost the company and not worried about all of the profits I bring in. On a final note, let me rant you about the most infamous of gripes I ever had. My former employers would occasional question WHY it took me 4 hours to service one account. From this account alone, I collected at least $1,200 in 3 hours. That was for bottles that cost $1.00 mostly. I usually brought in something like 24-30 cases of BOTTLES into one single account and I personally serviced something like 11 accounts at this location alone. I worked my butt off here, and they were upset because it took me 3 hours to restock $1,200+ worth of retail product. They ALSO got upset with me because it took me about 1.5 hours to restock $700 worth of product at another location. They ALSO got upset because it took me about 5 hours to service a campus that had 11 snack machines (no soda) in 7 different buildings in a campus that was 30 minutes away from the nearest location. In one day, I would often collect as much as $1,500 when I had a regular route and it took me about 10 hours to do it all, including about 3 hours of highway driving and loading my own vehicle every morning. I felt offended whenever they would question why it took me so long. Why were they questioning my time? Because they felt like they paid me too much as I was getting paid overtime. Because of those past experiences, I can understand how a good driver could get upset knowing that he/she restocks hundreds and hundreds of sodas and chips and candy bars every day and you're worried about if they had more than 2 sodas. Again, don't get me wrong, abuse is abuse, but focus on how good of drivers they are. If they aren't good at it, then you should replace them regardless, but if they are really good, perhaps just let it fly. Just think about it.
  15. The fact that you do not like questions is extremely telling. Frankly, those who blindly follow a pitch are fools, and it seems that that is exactly who are looking for.
  16. For many years I have been advocating for the dollar coin. For over 40 years, many respected and highly successful bulk vendors joined together to try to convince our Government to eliminate the dollar bill and replace it with the dollar coin. Recently both the House and the Senate introduced the Coins Act. The Honorable Rep. Claudia Tenney (R -N.Y.) and the Honorable Bob Brady (D-P.A.) introduced legislation in the House – The Currency Optimization, Innovation, and National Savings (COINS) Act of 2017. Senators John McCain (R- Ariz.) and Mike Enzi (R- Wyo.) have introduced the Senate version of the Coins Act. "Republicans (74 percent), Democrats (68 percent), and Independents (65 percent) see common ground when it comes to replacing the dollar bill with the dollar coin when informed of the savings from making the switch." Source: The Hill Congress needs to support the COINS Act by Former Reps. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) and Tim Penny (D-Minn.), Opinion Contributors - 06/26/17 I ask of you to take a few minutes of your time to email your Senators or local Congress Representative. I am showing you a copy of what I had written to my two Senators and local Congresswoman. You can copy and paste what I have written with your information and changes. Dear Honorable Representative Rice, My name is Frank Parisi and I am a local business owner and resident of Oceanside. I am involved in the bulk vending industry (small vending machines which dispense candy, gum and toys) and my family history dates back to 1942. Gumball machines are a part of Americana and they are slowly fading away due to the lack of the dollar coin. Our machines cannot afford costly bill acceptors. Recently, the Honorable Rep. Claudia Tenney (R -N.Y.) and the Honorable Bob Brady (D-P.A.) introduced legislation in the House – The Currency Optimization, Innovation, and National Savings (COINS) Act of 2017. Senators John McCain and Mike Enzi have introduced the Senate version of the Coins Act. I would like to make you aware that every industrialized leader nation today has a coin instead of a bill for their currency. According to this most recent article in The Hill... http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/339431-congress-needs-to-support-the-coins-act "Republicans (74 percent), Democrats (68 percent), and Independents (65 percent) see common ground when it comes to replacing the dollar bill with the dollar coin when informed of the savings from making the switch." With the current Trump Administration, this proposed Bill should gain easy support. This “will save American taxpayers up to $16 billion without one budget cut or raised tax." I would like to support you in any way I can! I do hope that you will support this Bill currently in Congress. Here is a link to a video news article done on me, my family history and the bulk vending industry done by the Long Island Business News... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHMAjSRApY I am looking forward to reading your thoughts! Sincerely, Frank Parisi
  17. The dollar coin revitalized bulk in Canada. Instead of being stuck with mechs that take quarters you would have mechs that take dollars. I can't see how that is hard to figure out. A dollar Mech on a NW S80 would now be able to take FOUR dollars. Much easier to merchandise with something people, even adults, want to buy. It would be a life saver to bulk vending.
  18. Keep trying.
  19. Accidentally fell onto a deal today. Ended up being quite large. A guy posted on the Facebook marketplace that he had over 150 gumball machines and he had a few things listed including a bunch of Northwestern triples and a&a pn95's that were still in unopened boxes. I went to check it out and he had a massive amount of stuff. Over 70 unopened brand new a&a machines w/lock and keys 4 brand new beaver machines w/luck and keys Over 30 NW triples (in good condition, but need cleaned up) Over 50 metal stands (some still in the boxes) 10-15 used NW super 60s Along with 100's of parts and at least another 20-30 used a&a machines. I'll have the exact numbers when I go to pick up everything Sunday, but easily worth the $2500 I'm paying.
  20. SO! Before and during my box truck purchase, I spent a lot of time researching how to keep my product cool in the AZ summer, and while I had many answers, nothing was "definite", and I went in loaded with much knowledge, but still partially blind. After some experience, I am here to report a definite, 100%-successful method for box trucks in the summer! Search for answers no more, for this works. Even in 120 degree weather my soda cans are cool to the touch. NOT remotely close to warm. 1) Paint your roof white with reflective roof paint (I used Henry's).... Also make sure the sides of you truck are white, usually they are? 2) Insulate your roof (I used the silver on one side/white on the other side insulation that Home Depot sells. Was cheap, like $10/sheet or something like that. That's it!!! I am so happy I tried a low-cost alternative before doing something like a reefer. This was a subject that I was stressing over for a while, I hope this post saves all future vendors any stress, because there needn't be any!
  21. I pretty much use Payrange instead of CC readers. I just think for many accounts readers are too expensive. I thinks devices like PayRange will become more popular. I don't think readers will become less popular, but I do think they will come down in price with competition. The idea behind PayRange is it uses your phones connection for transactions instead of the CC reader. This means it doesn't need any cell phone tech, connection, on paid infrastructure behind it. Just a Bluetooth connection. All the account information is between PayRange and the customer, not between the customer and the machine. The idea that I can get telemetry and cashless transaction for $80 per machine. You can put it on any MDB machine in under a minute. The cost to benefit is too much to ignore. Do I think CC readers are better, yes absolutely. But anyone can afford to put PayRange on almost any machine. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
  22. It sounds like another location that wants everything for nothing and for you to foot the bill. Don't get so excited over every potential account. Check them out and see what's going on and how you can improve their vending. Most locations don't really need all they want and they don't usually support more than a soda machine. You must do your due diligence on each location. You also want to stay away from any amusement machines. They don't do anything near what they used to and you need to focus on one part of vending at a time.
  23. I wouldn't invest in any Seaga machine and if this one is in the thousands of dollars then someone got taken and they are looking to get their money back. Don't be the one to bail them out.
  24. Buddy... I know you want straight up answers but I am also not very good at sugar coating things so I am just going to lay it out like it is. I'm not trying to insult you, but I want you to be successful. In many of your posts, you sound very cheap and not in a good way. We all want a bargain. In our business, every penny adds up REAL quick. Raising prices 5 cents is HUGE. As much as 4 cents out of that 5 cent increase could be all profit!!! In our business, making money is everything and spending money sucks. Here's the thing though... some things aren't worth your time. Now, if you DID get a lift gate or a trailer, you COULD save yourself a lot of money, but there are major drawbacks. Firstly, it is very difficult to move machines yourself. It is very physically demanding and extremely stressful (at least for me). You are in the business of stocking vending machines and making money off of the profits, not moving machines. Again, you COULD save a lot of money if you moved them yourself, but what if you find that you hate doing it or the investment is way over your head? Around here, to swap boxes costs a good 2 grand just for the labor! The reason is that they need to secure the boxes. It's not as simple as just pulling one off and putting the other on. Adding a lift gate requires a lot of welding, and that will add up real quick too... not to mention the COST of another box or the COST of a lift gate itself. You hate the idea of paying $50 to have a machine moved, but you're cool with investing thousands of dollars on a lift gate.. think about that. I know you want to minimize your costs as much as possible, but moving machines sucks. My gut feeling is that you feel like the mover is making big profits off of you for easy work when you feel that you could do the work yourself and save those profits. That's a BAD kind of cheap. If the mover is a professional, you are paying for a LOT with that $50. My mover charges me $75-$100/hour and I have no intention of getting a lift gate or moving equipment any time soon. He's worth it to me because I don't EVER have to worry about dropping a machine or getting myself hurt. What happens to your business if you break your foot or bang up your hand real bad? What do you do then? Would you feel happy spending thousands of dollars on moving equipment if you were hurt and couldn't even use it? What about the weeks and weeks that go by and you don't need to move anything but the lift gate is ALWAYS there and needs regular maintenance whether you use it or not? Again, I know you want to save money... we all do, but MANY companies pay someone else to move their machines for good reason. If the mover gets hurt, or if the mover's equipment breaks, I will still pay the same rate. In the last 3 years, I have paid $3,230 in moving expenses. That's right, over $1,000 each year in moving expenses and I have over 100 machines. Do you know how many times I got hurt? Zero!! I actually watched the mover trip on a curb one time and fall over, luckily the machine was on a stair-climber dolly and he was unhurt, but it could have been bad.. One other thing to keep in mind is that you need space on your truck for the machines, a means to strap them down (such as E track), a pallet jack and some other equipment, and at least one helper. If you moved them yourself, you probably need to unload your truck to make enough space to maneuver. Then, you need to drop everything you're doing to take the machines wherever they are going. For me, I just have the mover pick them up and drop them off at my house while I can continue working. I only need to be at the location to unlock the machine and make sure it gets installed/uninstalled without issue. I don't want to see you invest thousands of dollars into something and then later go "Man, I wish someone had warned me about this..." If you insist, I strongly recommend either getting a trailer or getting a truck that already has a lift gate. Mind you, the completely flat lift gates will ALWAYS be in the way, meaning you will have to make them work EVERY time you service any account. And the tuck-away models don't always fit under box trucks on van chassis. You really need a large truck that is dock-height to use a tuck-away model or else you might bottom out.
  25. Don't let an account control your machine. You are in the business to make money, and while we always want to accommodate and please our customers, you still are in control of your machines. I would explain to this account that, while some of his suggestions are fine, you simply can't bring in that much NEW inventory. You have no other customers that want those items and based on the sales at this location, you would have product "outdating" in your warehouse. I would tell him that you can accommodate a few of his requests, but if the sales aren't there, you will remove those items and replace with items that will sell. If this is not good enough for him, MOVE ON. You don't need this kind of headache. Just my 2 cents.
  26. I have a somewhat similar account. The circumstances are different, but the account has become almost unprofitable. Unless this is a gym, there's no way that stuff will sell. If an account doing maybe $85/week from soda and snacks demanded I do that, I would straight up tell them that I don't carry that and their volume is too low. If they find someone, my mover needs a 2 week window to uninstall. Just let me know if you find someone to meet your demands and give me two weeks to part ways amicably. That will solve a lot of problems. It could get you kicked out too. Conversely, you could offer to meet half way and try to sell a few power bars and see how it goes. If you can't sell two different kinds of very popular power bars, then you know he's an idiot. Customers like this just want to push you around so they can see the stuff in the machine and feel good thinking they are vending experts.
  27. I would never drop a bag full of unverified money off at a bank. That is putting a lot of trust in someone who could care less about you or your business. I use this: Amrotec X-1 2-Pocket Mixed Money Counter / Currency Discriminator (Bank Grade). I have had it over one year now and it is awesome. I blow the dust out after every use. I wish I had gotten it earlier.
  28. Every established vending company I work with has all of their trucks with the names or logo's on them. They are traveling billboards. Even the repair vehicle has their name on them. Also I have never lost an account because a vendor followed my truck around it was because we provided poor service or equipment. Get that website up asap. Then letter that van or box truck. We actually hired out each truck and had them hand painted. Cost a little more but they looked sharp. Also be sure they can clearly see your phone number on each side and the back doors. One of the biggest accounts we ever got was because they saw our trucks. They felt we were serious vendors. Here is a account I worked with Dependable Vending to install. Believe me it took advertising and lots of work to get this done. Get your name out there, show them you can do it.
  29. 1) yes, you hit my first point - website and SEO have to be up and running to get the best use of any other advertising these days. If they are driving when they see you, they will not be able to write anything down but they will search your name. 2) If you are putting markings on your truck, invest in a drop safe also (under $500 usually). Your truck WILL be a target whenever it is parked, because it is screaming "money inside!". A safe is not a bad idea even if you are unmarked. Theft of one days collections one time will cost much more than a safe. http://www.dsvendinginc.com/search.aspx?searchterm=safe 3) shop around for wraps. GTP does truck wraps as well as machines, I don't know how their prices stack up. 4) how long do you expect your current truck to last? If it's on it's last legs already, save your money to wrap the next one. 5) Do you have your name on your current machines? A small investment in some nice company labels for your machines is another good point of advertising. My truck is not wrapped by choice. I started out working from home (and still take the truck home most nights) and do not want to make my home and family a target by having a branded truck in the driveway. For me, my best advertising has been personal referrals from existing customers, and my web site. Everyone searches the web when looking for services.
  30. Cam on 2 is correct. As for the shims, the widest part goes toward the back of the cabinet, and there should be 4 on each side of the column.
  31. I have never done bulk but I have done honor boxes for about 2 years and I have been in the vending industry for about 11 years while being in business for myself for 7 of those 11 years. Honor boxes, bulk vending, and full-line vending all have their advantages and disadvantages. Honor boxes are the absolute CHEAPEST to get into and margins can be decent but you can easily max-out at something like maybe $40/hour and that's completely full-time and does NOT include the cost of a vehicle. Yes, $40/hour is good, but you'll be working pretty hard between servicing boxes and finding replacement customers when you lose customers. If you aren't going out every week looking for new customers, you'll fizzle out with honor boxes. Realistically, you can expect $15-$20/hour with honor boxes if you have your own vehicle, and people seem to look down on you from my experiences. Bulk vending, from my knowledge, is far less expensive than full-line but more expensive than honor boxes. Theft is usually not bad (ie. no one steals your product and machines don't get stolen too often from what I hear). Margins are probably on par with full-line (maybe 25-40%??) but that's because you often have to pay a hefty commission for a prime location. The primary advantage in bulk-vending is that you can collect a lot of money in a short period of time with very little overhead. I can't give you numbers because I don't know enough, but I am familiar with some vendors who sit back for 3 weeks at a time and run a 1-week-long route and collect a couple thousand dollars. The primary disadvantage, from what I understand, is that you need a LOT of locations to really make much money and you have to be careful about not putting too much product in the machines but also not making them look too empty. I think I have heard that you can expect many locations to collect as little as $7/month in sales whereas a good location does $25/month in sales. When you have 200+ bulk vendors, you can actually make a little money, but that's not going to happen overnight and tracking machine sales could be a little cumbersome. Full-line is obviously the most expensive but it has its perks. As with any of the three mentioned vending types, having good locations is everything. I will say though that THIS is the reason why I stick with full-line: One good location with a snack and can machine can easily generate $200/week in sales. Even at 25%, that's $50/week in profit. Furthermore, you can make that money in less than an hour if you're fast. In reality, I can restock $200 worth of retail products in about 45 minutes and I might profit more along the lines of $60 after everything is said and done. Once you factor driving time, I probably require 1 full hour to do such a location, Regardless, that's $50-$60/hour and I am actually not pushing myself to full speed. I have done this for 10 years and I am still relatively young. I can turn on the jets if I need to and probably get in and out in 30 minutes. The downside, of course, is the investment cost. The upside, of course, is the money you can make. The outcome REALLY depends on how good the locations are, how dense your area is, how efficient you are, and how good your prices are. If you are selling everything dirt cheap.. then you can't expect to be able to comfortably buy nice equipment and turn a nice profit. Economics is a real thing, and sometimes you can make more by lowering your prices, but there's a point at which it doesn't matter. As an example, maybe at 35 cents per can, you can easily sell 3 sodas per customer for a total gross of $1.05. Maybe at 50 cents, you'll sell 2 at a total of $1.00. Maybe at 75 cents, you only sell one. In all events, your product costs 30 cents each, not including tax. Three sodas cost 90 cents (profit $0.15 for 3). Two sodas cost 60 cents (profit $0.40 for 2). One soda costs 30 cents (profit $0.45 for 1). Selling one soda for 75 cents is more profitable than 2 sodas at 50 cents. In reality, people will probably only buy one soda regardless of the price. If you sell the cans for $1.25, you will probably sell nothing and get quickly kicked out, but there is always a sweet spot. In my case, through growth, cancellations, and various other changes in how I handle things, my COGs and fuel expenses (as a percentage) have gone down a little as my gross has increased. I am making roughly 35% more profit now than I did last year, which is a huge increase. I could possibly expect a 10% in profits next year too if I do well. I'll tell you this: in my 7 years of self-employment, i have seen so many ups and downs on my mental state. There were SO many times that I wanted to sell out and it just looked as though everyone was always doing better than me. Even people on this forum who had been doing it for 15 years were making more money than me and that BOTHERED me. I wanted to make profits NOW, even though I KNEW that I had to wait until I had paid off many loans and grown enough to really make actual money. I wanted it NOW. The hardest part was knowing that I COULD be doing something else [right then] and make MORE money. In the end, I now make the money I have always dreamed of. I set my own hours. I make ALL of the decisions. I don't have anyone constantly barking at me, except for a few annoying customers who have nothing better to do. Most importantly, I get to enjoy what I do and get paid doing it. Sometimes I don't feel like I am really working... other times I feel like just going home because I have dealt with too much crap for the day. The single most important thing that I KNOW about my current mental state is this: I enjoy being a vending operator. If it weren't for that, I would have gotten out years ago. Who in their right mind would invest into something that could take YEARS and YEARS to turn into a profitable venture when you could get something else making good money today? Furthermore, who in their right mind would invest into something they don't enjoy? If you're only in it for the money, then you need to consider that most businesses struggle the first few years while they get their finances straight (pay off loan, reinvest, etc..). If you're in it because you like it and you want to live off of it too, then just realize that it gets easier with time but you need to be patient. Whatever you do, don't start treating every other venture out there as though it's better. Bulk MIGHT be better, but it might not be. Vending might not even be your calling. Who knows. Decide whether you do it for the money or because you like it and want to make money. If you know for sure which one you are, then you can decide whether it's worth changing course or not. I am notorious for long posts, but you are new and you are in that difficult point where you don't know if you made the right decision or not and I think you might find my insight useful. I think we all went through that.
  32. ****At the end of the day I am still having some fun and look forward to the future... However... I hope this post helps the ultra-newbie like I was once. I now view myself as just a rookie, and not an ultra-newbie.....***** NEWBIES - PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME WITH QUESTIONS..... MY RULE IS THIS: MESSAGE ME A QUESTION, LET ME ANSWER IT, QUOTE ME ANONYMOUSLY - AND MAKE A FORUM POST TO MAKE SURE WHAT I SAID IS GUIDING YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!! Because again, I am still a newb....**** I will say this... if you are in a warm climate and are concerned about keeping your product cold... Like I was for many months.. read my post about box trucks.... however the knowledge is transferable to most vehicles!!! HI all! I am writing this post for the SOLE INTENTION of helping out people who are new or who are considering entering the industry... similar to me in the last 6-12 months. I am an ultimate newb and have made mistakes like any other business owner. The aforementioned being true... I HIGHLY recommend you read ALL of my posts... my posts represent a VERY helpful guide to newbs like yourself and I. My biggest mistake was buying a route without doing research. The best research you can do is ask the people on this forum about what you want to buy... I NEVER FULLY understood what I have read on these forums until I lived it myself. This forum is free so use it..... DO NOT GO OUT AND SPEND EVEN A LITTLE MONEY (AKA ONE MACHINE) OR A BUNCH OF MONEY (AKA ONE ROUTE) WITHOUT CONSULTING THIS FORUM!!!! A 5 MINUTE POST ON THIS FORUM COULD SAVE YOU 1) FIRST AND FOREMOST - HEADACHES 2) THOUSANDS OF $$$$!!!!!!! I hope you heed my bolded words... I cannot stress this enough Repairs and maintenance happen everyday, if you are not mechanically inclined like myself... it may be rough... it has been roguh for me but is getting better IF YOU THINK that this industry sounds easy.... it is not... the truth is that the margins are slim and the good accounts are taken.. I BUILT A NEST EGG TO INVEST, AND IT IS EXPENSIVE...... I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS INDUSTRY WAS SO SIMPLE AND HAVE BEEN EYEING IT FOR MANY YEARS.... EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED... SOMETHING THAT IS AN EVERYDAY STRUGGLE FOR MYSELF (AND PRESUMABLY ALL VENDORS, ESPECIALLY BEGINNERS, IS:) HAVING OLD AND OUT-DATED MACHINES: GETTING AN ACCOUNT WORTH ITS WHILE MACHINE UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE PRODUCT SELECTION, FIGURING OUT WHAT YOUR ACCOUNTS LIKE CAPITAL INVESTMENT - SURE IT SEEMS CHEAP AT FIRST... BUT START FACTORING IN MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, CC READERS, ETC.. TO DO IT RIGHT IN MY OPINION YOU NEED A BOX TRUCK OR SOMETHING SIMILAR... MORE MONEY HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPEND SHOPPING... VISTAR IS NICE BUT IS EXPENSIVE ACCOUNT CONTACTS BEING JERKS... EVERYONE THINKS YOU ARE GETTING RICH ALWAYS BEING ON CALL FOR PROBLEMS AT ACCOUNTS, DEALING WITH INDECENT COMPLAINTS MANAGING WASTE MISC. BIZ EXPENSES..... INSURANCE, CAR INSURANCE... TAXES.... THE LIST GOES MUCH DEEPER... MACHINE UPKEEP
  33. anI agree with everything said so far but after watching you go, I mean rock the work, this might be a good place for you to go. We had a lot of office coffee accounts doing well over a $1000 a month. We finally brought on a full-time coffee guy. Once you get going you will come across some nice full line accounts wanting stand alone coffee machines or else. Those are ugly. But if you want to get large blue collar accounts that comes with the territory. On the other hand Office coffee is simple. First buy a bunch of Bun burners, for every burner out you need 7 glass coffee pots. Yep 3 red ring (decafe) and 4 black ring (reg.). On the burners, you will either get normal pour overs (they fill a pot with water and fill the tank themselves) or probably more often than not they will want in line systems. Plumbing the line isn't hard but if you can't do it, you will need a plumber. Never do it if you are in a high-rise. The building maintenance will do it. When you service take replacement pots, two black pots and 2 red to replace , take the dirty pots back to the shop or home to put in the dishwasher. You will carry a box with fitted places to put the pots for coming and going. Charge for creamers, cups, sugars, etc. Stirrers are always free. We normally doubled our money on each product. There is extra paperwork, this is a business. If you ever go for a bank loan or line of credit they want to see your books. Pay your taxes (there won't much of anything for your federal because your depreciation will eat it up) Just pick up a Dome book (Staples) to complete each week or month. At tax time just hand that baby to your accountant. Or do books online. Keep receipts. If you haven't gotten your vendors license yet, do it. Some vendors don't it to prevent paying sales tax. Again do it. Vendors think they just pay the sales tax as they go at the warehouse. Not worth the risk. If the State catches you they will get your records from the warehouse then by looking at how much product purchased over time (they will go back 10 years) they determine how much the product would have brought in, based on the amount of you charge. They do give you credit for tax paid at the store but then they bill you for the adjusted balance put a big fine on you and put liens on everything you own. So just do the right thing. Be a real business. My two cents which I am sharing because you seem like a guy wanting to just do the work and build a solid foundation to grow. Of course, you don't have to do all of this in your first few years but you might want to start now. When you need a box truck or more equipment it will feel great to have the bank say, "Pick out what you need and have them call me." B
  34. Of course, once everyone gets their machines set-up and running with their reader's, something new will come along like fingerprint vending, ESP vending just think about the product and it drops then charges your card. Maybe Amazon will get into vending, go outside and a drone will fly over to drop your snack. This is all silly stuff but it is a difficult business to stay on top of the new technologies. Glad I retired.
  35. There's coffee vending and there is Office Coffee Service which can be batch brewers (pourovers, automatics or airpots) or single cup brewers which can be free to the user or can have coinage in them for charging for products. The least expensive way to do coffee is with batch brewers where you basically loan the equipment and charge for the products used. This is traditional OCS. Single cup brewers do a limited number of products and are very expensive machines. Coffee vending is between those two in expense and was the preferred way to do coffee for me because it's what I used for years, though I also did OCS so some extent. Until you are well experienced in this business you might want to stay away from coffee if you can - it's a whole other animal.
  36. Lol. I don't have any plans on going in that direction. I did find a guy selling 450 locations with northwestern doubles near Cleveland. He was asking quite a bit though, then I found these machines so I ended those discussions. Here's what I ended up with roughly: 72 a&a pn95's (brand new never used) 4 beavers (brand new never used) 30 NW super 60s (both new and used but all in great shape) 35 NW triples (most just need cleaned up, a few are only good for parts) Enough parts to build at least another 20 pn95's. Other than broken or scratched globes, they just need wiped down 8 super 60s with glass globes 3 oak 300s 6 older comets and 1 small Victor 88 At least 50 nw tempo stands and around 30 pedestal and pipe stands Locks and keys for every machine Took me 6 pickup loads to haul it away lol
  37. Are you trying to buy all of the machines in Ohio?
  38. That machine has an In-One board. That connector is only for 110 VAC dumb mech and is not used with MDB. Enter service mode, scroll down to diagnostic menu, enter, down to motor test, enter, down to entire tray, enter. You may have closed the door with the tray out, or you may have been in service mode and had the tray out when service mode timed out.
  39. I had an account tell me almost the exact same thing. My response to him was that I was willing to try a few of the products he requested and if they sold we would add more, if they didn't he would be responsible for buying (at retail) any expired products at the end of each month. We would count them, box them, and hand him the box and an invoice that was due on receipt. He quickly decided to let us leave the machines as is. I also had a $10 / month account that demanded that every spiral be filled front to back. I told him the same thing and he backed off also.
  40. Seems the little accounts scream the loudest. We do what we can to accommodate requests but it gets to the point of being ridiculous. Walk into Coke or Pepsi warehouses and look at all the different sku's of products now. It's out of hand.
  41. Today I had a guy call me who just took over management of one of my accounts. He was extremely aggressive on the phone and demanded many things, I treated all his words with respect and an un-elevated voice. Amongst his demands was a commission. I told him to give me some time to give my response to his commands on paper. I sent him a response that was not submissive, but not dominant either. His response in a nutshell: I respect the way you handled this entire situation and keep your profits, and you can add a snack machine!! ***WAH - BAM!!!!!***
  42. We get a lot of compliments about our Micro-Market trucks.
  43. Caveat: l like Costco, great prices, clean store, helpful employees. When I compare them to Sam's Club there is no comparison, Sam's just loves vendors. They list all beverages, individual candy, chips, and cookies by unit price. So I instantly know my COGS. Costco does it by weight, so I have to do long division everytime I want the unit price. Costco opens at 10am, so does Sam's, but if you have a business account, they open at 630am. So it is just you and other vendors and a line of boxtrucks. Lastly, Costco's app and website is a dumpster fire. They list things as in your stoethat aren't there. The online prices don't match the store. It's just doo plus doo. Sam's has scan and go, the website is pretty accurate. They price match anything, have free WiFi, and tend to have a Walmart closeby. Now I am lucky that I have Sam's and a Costco within 3 miles of my house and a mile from storage unit. There is even a BJ'S close by but I never shop there. Other folks aren't as lucky, and are stuck with what they got. I even talked to Costco's management, and got the Deer in headlights look. Okay rant over, back to your previous scheduled program. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
  44. I have over 200 vend stars and I love them. I pay average of 50 bucks apiece for them. I use them in all locations but my "a" locations. Everyone has there own options you'll just have to figure out what works for u. Btw I have vendstar plastic crap as people say in locations doing $75 bucks a month. That's 300 spins a month doing just fine. I also have over 200 u turn machines and I'll pick vendstar before u turn. Good luck
  45. Depending on your market size you can use a broker to sell it for you. You will need to be patient if you want to be cashed out. To ensure the quickest sale you should have as many locations under contract as possible, pay low commissions, have all machines in perfect condition, have all machines validated, have no below-market prices, have well trained and uniformed employees, have all equipment paid for, have card readers in all appropriate locations, have complete and accurate records, etc.
  46. You know, we snack in the warehouse as well, and often are just pulling from the "stales" bin rather than consuming saleable product. It's already a write off anyway. I let my driver take stales home as well. I do watch so that stales aren't being "created" just to take home, so far it's not a problem...
  47. P.S. I may have told the same story before but my numbers might be off. That all happened almost a decade ago and my memory of it all gets fuzzier and fuzzier lol. Plus, I didn't actually count the money so I am not exactly sure what I collected. I just know that the secretary or boss would sometimes tell me how much the account did that day after I got back and dropped the money off. Sometimes the boss would say "Hey, xxx account did $757 today" so I got kind of used to how much those accounts did. However, my memory of being offended remains clear! I even found out one time that my coworker was fired because they thought they caught him stealing. Turned out, he was spreading money around from one good account to two slower accounts so that it looked like he serviced the machines when, in fact, he would service one machine and take a 30-minute nap instead. They still fired him because sleeping on the job is just as bad as stealing in reality. But I soon found out that they had set me up too, but I checked out perfectly. I was upset that they set me up but I let that go because they checked everyone.
  48. Oaks are traditional looking gumball machines that everyone immediately recognizes. I guarantee you they will be looked upon more favorably by locations than a Vendstar machine. I have been using them for many years and have been completely satisfied. If the machine is clean, paint is good, have clear panels and a freshly painted metal stand then you will have no trouble placing them. There is a reason these machines have been around for decades and will continue to be for decades.
  49. I think $20 is fair for 2 minutes too. The question is, is it really a 2-minute job. Even if the mover is 2 blocks away, the whole thing could easily take 15 minutes. I think you're wishful with the whole 2-minute thing. If he only charges $20, you're getting one hell of a deal!
  50. Get some carpet squares or "sliders". Tilt one side and put sliders on the front foot and one on the back. Repeat process on the other side. Slide it over to its new location. Don't try this with the machine full of product. The less product the better and preferably empty. Remember too that leverage is your friend when moving equipment.