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During the height of the Homies craze I pulled $1600+ from 14 machines in a supermarket. 4 week collection. There was at least 1 fill up in between. Probably 2.

There are quite a few flat key numbers. But far more of the cylinder numbers, so your machines are safer with the cylinders. Ask him if he remembers the key number.

That's a bet you would lose. I've been in the business for over 20 years now and I've had this happen many times. I've had just about everything happen with the exception of what you are implying might happen. I've had the person pick up the machines after I've called. I've had to pull his machines back to my warehouse. I've had the person come to my warehouse to pick up the machines. I've dropped the machines off somewhere. Very often, I've had to eventually destroy the equipment because there was either no phone #, no one answering the phone #, or the person never came to pick up the equipment.

I think it's funny that you call it stealing for me to call you up, tell you that you are in violation of my exclusive contract, give you a month to pick up your equipment and to call you after the month and tell you that your machines are in my warehouse. and then give you a chance to pick them up. That doesn't make me a very good thief. Just out of curiousity. the money that's in your machines, that you put in the store in violation of my exclusive contract, that I might have paid a placement fee for, that I might have had to make 6 phone calls and go to 3 meetings to get, that I might have had to offer 35 or 40% commission, that I might have had to promise that I would beat the sales of the previous operator, that money in your machines, is that money stealing?????

I mostly agree with Haven here. First off, in this account the operators do have exclusive contracts (through a management company). The manager made a mistake by letting you place the equipment. Second, there is no way in hell I am showing my contract to the guy who dropped his machine off. The contract has information in it that you are not entitled to see. Like length of contract, commission rate and possibly other clauses. In this situation I tell the operator that he is in violation and I tell the store manager. If the machines are still there next month they get relocated to my warehouse, where they will be kept safe for a few months. I will call you to tell you what happened to the machines. If it appears you are not going to make arrangements to get the machines back, at some point in time (4-6 months?) they get destroyed.

lol some stickers and tattoos are made here...... no toys

I believe they are called Northwestern Classics. They were the main machine of Folz for many years. You could block holes on the machine to make it 75 cents or a dollar if you needed. But I agree to stay away from the machine.

My feeling is the first machine the customer walks by will do the best, eveything else being equal.

Nothing in that paragraph overrides the basic principle that items bought for resale are not taxed. All references in that paragraph are dealing with items sold to the final user.

That paragraph was written for vending machines that vend candy bars and soda etc..It is possible to read that paragraph to exempt our stuff up to 75 cents. The bulk vending exemnption was specifically tailored for our machines. As I said before since no one sells gumball for 75 cents it is irrelevant. Could you please provide me any state tax law that explicitly or implicitly states that if you purchase bulk candy for resale you have to pay sales tax. Thank You.

could you please provide an example in any state's tax law where a middleman pays sales tax on a tax exempt item he resells. thank you

The blogger simply copied and pasted it from the NBVA website. The information, as near as I can tell, is accurate. Do you believe he just made up random numbers? Or you could just believe me. My company has been doing business in NY since 1965. I've been in the business since 1987. There is really no difference between gum and candy at 75 or 50 since I doubt any of us are selling it for 75. But, unto the main point and the OP's question. How can you draw any distinction between non-tax and tax exempt? There is none. If I have to pay sales tax for my gumballs then the supermarket should have to pay sales tax when it buys milk from it's supplier under your nonsensical logic that someone's got to pay the sales tax.

Was unable to find the page on the NBVA page but it seems that some blogger copied it: http://bulkvending.blogspot.com/2007/06/bulk-vending-and-sales-tax.html

I could let people read pages of state tax law and come to ttheir own conclusion but I am trying to save people that effort. I was in the business when Roger Folz got a 25 cent exemption for our industry in NY and I remember very vividly when he got it increased to 50 cents. I have talked to people in NY who want to try to get it increased to 75 cents. I am 100% certain that the bulk vending exemption in NY is 50 cents. If you were to go to the NBVA page which discusses bulk vending sales tax exemptions (I'll link it in my next post) you wilee see that the exemption is 50 cents. Now on the point of whether I should be charged sales tax for stuff that I resell I am not as sure. You make an interesting point. But it flies in the face of everything I have heard in the 20+ years I have been in business. We have also purchased from NY suppliers and no one has ever charged us sales tax. None are of the caliber of a Concord or A+A but the subject never came up. It seems like an open and shut case. Sales Tax is paid by the end consumer. And in this case this transaction is exempt from sales tax. And you have provided me with no law that says in a case where the final transaction is exempt we move down the line and charge sales tax on the previous transaction in the supply chain.

I buy my gum by the skid, directly from Corcord. Over the phone. It comes by truck. I've been ordering from them for 20 years. They have my resale number. They know that the gum is going into gumball machines in New York. They don't charge me sales tax. They know what they're doing. They don't have to report any sales tax. Neither do I.