Vending Times Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Beaver Machine Corp. is attempting to take bulk vending in a new direction. The company's new Coil-Pak vending machine can vend a wide variety of products normally found only in full-line machines... View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmac Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I like the idea, but...Did I read article correctly: There's only a maximum count of 18 products on the 2 coil machine? That would make the machine pretty useless in most good locations. Assuming I read the article correctly, the new machine's capacity of 9 per coil is unbelievably limiting when only 2 coils can be had...unless you want a whole rack of these (in which case it's probably cheaper/better to just get a snack machine). Kudos to Beaver for going in this direction. It's a great venture. But, they probably shouldn't have gone public on a machine designed in a manner that only allows for 18 sales before it empties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBalls Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I like the idea, but...Did I read article correctly: There's only a maximum count of 18 products on the 2 coil machine? That would make the machine pretty useless in most good locations. Assuming I read the article correctly, the new machine's capacity of 9 per coil is unbelievably limiting when only 2 coils can be had...unless you want a whole rack of these (in which case it's probably cheaper/better to just get a snack machine). Kudos to Beaver for going in this direction. It's a great venture. But, they probably shouldn't have gone public on a machine designed in a manner that only allows for 18 sales before it empties. Each coil can accommodate 18 products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Each coil can accommodate 18 products That's definitely good news. But, I wonder if 36 products is even enough? Guess I'm just used to bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverVending Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Hi Everyone, Thank you for your feedback. The Coil-Pak was designed to dispense product that isn't able to be capsuled, and these items usually have a higher value associated with them. These higher price point items usually move a bit slower than capsuled product on a bulk rack (with a larger profit to make up for it). We believe that because of this, the service cycle for the Coil-Pak will be very similar to the rest of the setup it could be placed on. We also feel that having fewer items in the machine at one time will help to deter theft. Another benefit of this machine is that the cash box is completely separate from the coils, so if you had a location that was moving through product quickly, and you felt comfortable with this option, you could leave pre-loaded coils with the location to switch out as needed. Please continue with providing feedback as it comes up, I am passing all of this info on to the designers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I do not think it is very viable, if it was we would be seeing plenty of the old bizop mechanical snack machines on bulk routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hi Everyone, Thank you for your feedback. The Coil-Pak was designed to dispense product that isn't able to be capsuled, and these items usually have a higher value associated with them. These higher price point items usually move a bit slower than capsuled product on a bulk rack (with a larger profit to make up for it). We believe that because of this, the service cycle for the Coil-Pak will be very similar to the rest of the setup it could be placed on. We also feel that having fewer items in the machine at one time will help to deter theft. A few issues: The machine uses coin mechs and this limits U.S vendors to a $1 price point. A $1 vend tremendously limits the "higher price point" products we can vend and still make a profit on. The machine only makes $36 before coils need to be refilled (18 items per coil at the $1 price point). Leaving pre-loaded coils on location is risky. A location's employees/managers can be less trustworthy than their customers. You state higher price-point items can move slower than caps while providing higher profit. True. But, you must get well above the $1 price-point before this becomes relevant. Vendors already sell some capped items profitably at the $1 price-point using machines already on the market that can process much more than 36 vends before needing a refill. This all sounds like I hate the machine. I don't. I am actually very intrigued by the whole idea. Some things just need to be tweaked. Because as it stands now, the machine is just a more reliable version of the old mechanical snack machines orsd referred to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBalls Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 A few issues: The machine uses coin mechs and this limits U.S vendors to a $1 price point. A $1 vend tremendously limits the "higher price point" products we can vend and still make a profit on. The machine only makes $36 before coils need to be refilled (18 items per coil at the $1 price point). Leaving pre-loaded coils on location is risky. A location's employees/managers can be less trustworthy than their customers. You state higher price-point items can move slower than caps while providing higher profit. True. But, you must get well above the $1 price-point before this becomes relevant. Vendors already sell some capped items profitably at the $1 price-point using machines already on the market that can process much more than 36 vends before needing a refill. This all sounds like I hate the machine. I don't. I am actually very intrigued by the whole idea. Some things just need to be tweaked. Because as it stands now, the machine is just a more reliable version of the old mechanical snack machines orsd referred to. Wasn't really made for the US market. Was made for the Canadian dollar coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wasn't really made for the US market. Was made for the Canadian dollar coins. Yup. Has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerformaVending Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fascinating idea- with some tweaks it could be a real game changer. I can see it really coming to it's own as a "prize unit" on those smaller soccer/pinball vending machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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