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    we're not willing to touch the old vendors units unless we get a written release from liability from the facility owner. the problem I have is it damages the perception of vending in the eyes of facility owners and management. We run a professional operation and subpar operators damage our future prospects.
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    Let's name it Fred. It looks like a Fred.
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    I would consider an InOne kit instead of the VE board because lots of people have issues with the VE board that aren't easy to diagnose. InOne seems to have better support.
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    I try to fill based on sales so I won't fill up a machine completely unless I expect it to be empty or under 25% left by the time the next service cycle comes up. If I have a triple and only one selection seems to be selling well at the moment I will only fill the other two selections to about 1/4 to 1/3 full. Obviously I change things up a few times to see if anything else moves but if it doesn't I will generally change the two slow canisters to a pressed candy such as Runts, Lotsa Sours. Cotton Candy etc... to reduce shrink because have a very long shelf life. The last thing you want to do is fill a canister full of peanut M & M's just to throw them away in 6-9 months because they are stale. As long as you are on a consistent 2-3 month service schedule you shouldn't have any issues with locations thinking the machine isn't being cared for. Honestly they often pay no attention to it at all unless someone complains about stale candy or losing money.
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    Because people are assholes.
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    I strongly urge those who have locations that have gone bankrupt to monitor online auctions for your equipment. Lots of businesses are liquidated in this way when they shutter, and your machines might get caught up in the mess. In addition, try finding live auctioneers that operate in your route areas, and give them a heads up. Search in your area, and be creative with your keywords, lots of folks don't use the "proper term". I've seen soda machines go as pop or coke or pepsi or 7up, and snack machines go as chip or candy machines, among other terms. The sites that a lot of auctioneers use are: https://www.bidspotter.com/ https://hibid.com/ https://www.proxibid.com/ I also made a notice to put on the doors of closed locations:
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    If you are small enough that you are still purchasing your pop from Sam's Club, then "negotiating" prices with the bottlers is not going to happen. They do have "slightly" better price brackets for increased volume and rebate programs that you could possibly qualify to participate, but unless you are doing SUBSTANTIAL volume, like a Canteen franchise (several pallets of product weekly), you will not be negotiating anything. They will tell you what your price is and that will be that. Don't expect some great pricing either.
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    Volume I’m sure makes a difference. I think cans for me are .41 and 20 oz bottles are .91. High compared to Sam’s on cans. I only order minimal because they are high. Honestly have never tried to negotiate.
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    10 cents for beer, you can put it at my pool 😁
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    That means your machine lost power long enough to lose its pricing due to a bad battery on the logic board. It then defaulted to that price. The board needs a CR2032 battery but you can just reprice it for now. Seeing the t-handle with no lock means its probably been sitting for a long time so the battery might recharge itself. You also have one bad segment on the 5.
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    press mode button press "E" (display will show "optn") press "A" until 'Yes" {forced vend} press "B" until "No" {escrow bill} press mode button to exit Thank me later.
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    Good answers above. These machines are averaging $50 a week if the numbers are correct. Out of your $600 in sales, product cost will be between 50-60%, the card readers will run anywhere between $8 to $15 a month each plus swipe fees, and also deduct sales tax if not already figured in. So your gross profit will be about $ 150 a month before figuring your other overhead. Even assuming no other overhead (repairs, business licenses, insurance, bank charges, vehicle expense to service the machines, etc) you will need 4 1/2 years to break even at that price. Small accounts with small machines are just too hard to make a profit with if you overpay. I start valuing at 50% of annual sales for a route, so that would be $ 3,600. Imported machines and combo machines are a negative but the card readers are a positive. $50 a week is a bottom level account, not worth any premium. So I might offer $ 3,000, which may not even pay off his debt on the machines if he still has any (likely), but I would NOT go any higher. Maybe start with Allen's 2.5 and let him counter you a little bit. Be humble about making the offer, and don't be surprised if he is insulted, but don't let that guilt you into overpaying. Leave the offer on the table and wait for the callback if you want it.
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    While the Rhinos work good for now they don’t hold up in the long run. Put it this way, there are Oaks and Beavers out there literally older than me, still working and making money.
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    You didn't indicate what your signal strength reading was before and after, but in my experience the high gain antenna solves any signal problem that can be solved. If it's still not working I would agree with AZ that the problem is elsewhere; you may need to change the telemeter...
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    Convince her that you aren't recognizing that she is getting any older, and by forgetting her birthday, she doesn't have to add to her age that year. Win - win.
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    To the OP: Put a hard start kit on your compressor. Get the larger one for a larger compressor - Supco RCO210. If that fails then you need a new compressor. To Chris: NY is talking about buying just the compressor bell housing itself and having someone do the work. But you better know EXACTLY what model you need. The risk is in the shipping and handling because if it's handled roughly the rotor in the compressor can come off of one of the springs it rides on and you'll get a very loud compressor. Too risky for me. Around here we go to a refrigeration wholesaler and buy compressors that have been handled safely - often off of a pallet. He's also too cheap to pay the man so he trucks himself all over kingdom come to save a few bucks. He must have a lot of time on his hands.
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    Grandma's cookie here, a bag of Doritos there..... or make a grand gesture, every one of the 6 or 8 or 10 people in the lunch room get a free Coke. Not every day, not every time, but not just limited to decision makers and upper staff. I can't speak for everyone's personal situation, but I am definitely known by most of the workers in the places I go to, and a little goes a long way. Also, if your 'contact' asks for a 'refund bank', be generous with it. I like to make a show of it; get them to bring their cup or plastic bag or whatever else container and pour the money from the coin box into it. It looks like a lot, but it's probably only 20 or 30 dollars. I pay zero commission these days, and 20 or 30 dollars this way a couple of times a year is a drop in the bucket, but it sure does look good. And don't forget security, they've got your back. A simple "hey this is extra, do you want it?" goes miles toward them being on 'your side'. Better yet, give them a coupon, if you use those. I see the same faces all the time, and I'm probably giving away about 5 bucks or less a week in profit, but it is remembered. You want the vending machine experience to be a positive one. You want people to know you like them, and appreciate them. Seize an opportunity; the cleaning lady who always happens to be mopping the floor while you're there? Make friends, and 'buy' her a Coke. It's amazing how much people like to get something for free. The random guy or gal who you see often; might just be your decision maker later on, or better yet, move on to another company and remember you as the 'cool guy', or gal, and recommend your services. I've had it happen. Treat your customers like friends. I'm a small time operator that has somehow managed to survive, and thrive, by using these techniques. But I have to bend down and fill case after case after case after case after case ........
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    If it wasn't stolen before, it is now, because at that price you stole it
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    Everybody, as a child, had that fantasy of stopping time and just walking around doing things, whether it be at school or at a store.
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    The other one could be a Charlie, I don't think two Fred's could live in the same box.
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    I use USAT cashless and manage my routes with ParLevel. You can go sole source with ParLevel and get Nayax cashless thru them, and that won't be a mistake either, but I find the USAT cashless hardware to be the most reliable for me. That is always subject to change as companies upgrade, or rest on their laurels. Free advise for what it it worth....
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    But I'm intelligent!!.… wait a minute...
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    You could get a converter box from SEM in Canada for around $300. Then You'll need a MDB bill acceptor & changer which will be $125-$300 each, Then you'll need the card reader kit for an additional................yep, $300. Go for it! Spend $900 on a machine that I sell for $50 when I pick them up from location. This is America!
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    Sell it and buy a decent machine. The first answer you got was the only answer you really needed. Don't waste time or money at all on this machine.
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    Much too old. There were fairly simple upgrades made for this generation of machines to add bill validators when those became common; but card readers require a much more modern system using a control board with compatible firmware and MDB protocol. No one makes a package upgrade for these old machines and DIY would basically require building a new machine from scratch inside the old shell if could even be done... If you want a card reader then obviously it's not going in your man cave. Look around and invest in a used DN 501E or Royal 650 with MDB and up to date firmware. You will be much better off in time, cost, and reliability.
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    Someone may have decided that they should eat free... might want to check with tech support and see if they can shed any light on the issue....
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    Mech is fine. Bill validator, get a Mars VN25x1. The VFMs are garbage now.
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    That OEM board is not credit card compatible. I would suggest the UCB board from Vendors Exchange. Most UCB boards will let you use either MDB or original mech & validated. Not sure that option is available on your model machine. Call Vendors and they can tell you for sure. 800-321-2311.
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    The preferred setup is usually a full size snack soda pair, as combos require frequent restocking. Unless you need the combo for space reasons I would go full size. Please note, I will be recommending some brands. While most of the stuff they make is good, there are some models they make that are garbage, and others that are obsolete. Feel free to ask about particular models and machines you find for sale and want to buy. But assuming you need the combo, USI/Wittern is by far the most common good combo. AMS and Crane/ National also make some, but they are typically refrigerated snack machines with large spirals for drinks. They are excellent machines but not typically available used as they are often used as cold food machines for large accounts. AP and Crane/ National did also make some combos where it is a regular ambient snack machine with a refrigerated can module box in place of the bottom few shelves. These will be a bit older, and are only can capable. In addition, they are a pain in the golpher to work on. If you go for full size snack and soda, the brands I recommend are as follows: Soda: Dixie Narco, Vendo, Royal Snack: AP, National, Crane, AMS, USI/Wittern/Fawn
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    Depending on the brand of bill acceptor & machine board configuration, there is an escrow switch that needs turned off to allow another bill.
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    Check the price setting.
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    Lazy is such an ugly word. I prefer to call it selective participation.
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    I'll just swap the deck and take the old one to my HVAC friend. Thanks, Dan
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    Sorry, I didn't make may last statement very clear. 16.9 oz bottles are the same diameter as the 12oz cans & typically vend well in a can setup after moving the back spacer. I haven't dealt with that model of Vendo on a frequent enough basis to give you clear insight on the correct kit. I'm sure one of the others on here will be able to tell you more specific. If you want a faster answer Ryan from Snack Attack Vending can help & probably sells the parts. http://www.snackattackvendingllc.com/php/index.php?p=parts_vendosodamachine His number is on the link at the top of the page.
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    I think Quill or Staples will be your best bet. A cheaper alternative that I have used over the years are "Rascals" from Sam's Club ($51.00 for 26lb box). Works out to be about 5-6 cents cheaper per ounce compared to Runts at $85.00 per 30lb case but don't sell as quickly. They are a smaller size candy and don't look nearly as good as Runts or Nitwitz (another smaller version of Runts). Nitwitz generally cost the same or more than Runts. Runts generally outsell Rascals for me. Honestly my sales from Runts/Rascals are never great but they have a great shelf life so I eventually get through them.
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    I keep trying with cold food because large locations want it, but I have yet to make it work. The virus shutdowns have killed my food machines right now, but before that I had to discontinue at one location because the bosses held meetings in the break room and thought the machine was too loud, so they would just unplug it.... yes, they would plug it back in when they were done, but the health sensor would shut down sales. So the employees thought the machine was broken and sales fell off even when it was restocked and reset. After about 5 times in 10 weeks I turned the machine off and discontinued stocking it, management did not notice for over 3 months until I mentioned it while discussing something else... bottom line: they will pressure you for it because it costs them nothing, but they don't really care that much in many places.
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    I was hoping to study abroad, but she got a restraining order.
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    Everyone has their own way of evaluating and valuing a route. Speaking for myself here, one way people come up with values is by accepting the fact that lower-grossing accounts typically produce significantly less profits relative to the time it takes to service them. Being too low in gross sales not only means profits are low (because sales are obviously low) but also means out-of-date product (ie. stale product) is high. For example, a single snack machine doing $100/month sounds good, and it isn't horrible, but break it down this way: Let's say you sold 30 candy bars at $1.00 each ($30 total), 20 pastries at $1 each ($20 total), 40 chips at $0.90 each ($36 total) And 16 various cookies at $0.85 each (almost $14.00). This adds up to about $100 in total sales. The problem is that those pastries expire in 4-6 weeks. So, any pastries that haven't sold are either expired or about to expire and must be removed from the machine (or placed elsewhere to sell quickly if they aren't expired yet). Chips last anywhere from 1 month to 6 months but most big-sellers are about 6-8 weeks from when you get them, so you also have to rotate those that haven't sold too. Of course, you can stock less pastries and chips than necessary to avoid having expired products, but now you'll lose sales because the items aren't there to sell. So you are stuck in this game of chance where you either stock too much and constantly rotate product (which takes more time) or you stock less product and deal with customers complaining about how you don't stock enough product. Also, you can't tell them that you don't fully stock the machines because sales are too low, because they'll adamantly claim that you would sell WAY more if you fully stocked it. Simply put, they are wrong when they are dealing with a vendor who knows what they are doing, but that's all beside the point. The point is that $100/month can be problematic. How do you get around the issues mentioned above? Easy! You go every 2 or 3 weeks. That way, you can stock more than you should need, and only have to rotate maybe every other rotation. Sounds good right? The problem with that is that you now service the machines TWICE as often and you are more likely to overlook things like expiration dates because a lot of things can go through to the next cycle but maybe you missed a few... Basically, no matter how you cut it, slower accounts require more work. That's not always true, even with accounts doing $100/month, but it's often true with accounts at that level or slower. My current minimum for cans + snacks is $1600/year, which I think is pretty generous. My minimum for bottles + snacks is $2,500 (used to be $2,000), which I also think is generous. At those minimums, I can usually go every 3 weeks, collect maybe $100-$150 and only devote 30-45 minutes of my time to do so. Out of that money, I might profit $40 or so, which isn't bad for 30-45 minutes. However, again, customers will complain about various things and slower accounts often complain the most. And, to top EVERYTHING off, repairs dig into profits heavily. If an account is doing $2,500/year, which means that even at 40% (I don't make that much after all expenses are accounted for), you are profiting $1,000/year from that account. All it takes is a bad compressor and maybe a couple new motors and a validator repair and half of your profits are gone for the year on that account. On the other hand, an account doing twice as much ($5,000/year) will have far less stales (and thus a better margin overall), you can stock it fuller, not have to worry nearly as much about stales, and you can afford repairs and extra trips. Another factor is drive time. No matter how much an account does, the drive time is the same. If it takes you 15 minutes to get to an account, it takes 15 minutes regardless of whether it makes you $1 or $10,000. It might take me 20 minutes for an account that I collected $100 from and probably 45 minutes for an account where I collected $250. If you add 15 minutes to that for traveling, it took me 35 minutes to restock $100 worth of product or 55 minutes to stock $250 worth of product. That means that if I collect $250 in an hour, and I can do that 8 times in an 8-hour shift, I can restock $2,000 worth of product in an 8-hour shift with those accounts, as opposed to less than $1,600 for the slower accounts. That may not sound like a big deal to you, but assume that the stales make the profit margin only 30% on the slow accounts and 40% on the better accounts.. now we are talking about $480/day for the slow accounts and $800/day for the better accounts. Again, you may be happy with $480/day (I would be too!!) but you would have to have SO many of those accounts because you'd be servicing them every 2 or 3 weeks at a time and not every week!! When you realize the amount of RUNNING AROUND you'd have to do, you'd understand better. With the bigger accounts, you can go every week, multiple times each week, or maybe once every other week, but you'll be more on top of service and you can be WAY more efficient that way. Stales are better controlled, repairs are MUCH easier to take care of because you have far less equipment to worry about, and vacations won't be as impossible as having 3 times as many slow accounts. I started off with slower accounts, and $100/month isn't bad, but the point to all of this is that slow accounts don't hold the same value as accounts doing far more money. That's why orsd said 6 months + equipment for accounts doing $200/month or more or 1 month + equipment for accounts that do less. The equipment has value, and the value of the equipment is largely based off of the market prices in your area, but the value in the accounts is subject to what they can make you. You get way more headaches with slower accounts and worse margins as opposed to accounts with higher gross sales. I have also found that slower accounts often nag more about prices being too high too. On the flip side to all of this, many of us here would pay far more than 6 months + equipment for certain accounts. For example, accounts doing over $20,000/year could justify 1 year's gross + equipment or possibly more depending on contracts and other factors. Those kinds of accounts are the ones where, if the soda machine keeps breaking down, it's totally okay to buy a new soda machine and replace it. That's not the case with slow accounts. If the soda machine keeps breaking down and sales just aren't there, you gotta cancel the account. I hope this all makes sense to your question.
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    Thanks for the help walta i guess I could have switched something but it looked to me like all the wires were unique and would only fit in their proper place i will look closer tomorrow. I thought that's what JC-10 might mean but the machine only has 9 columns? When it says homing nothing happens on the motors nothing turns at all do you know what that might mean? Thanks again...


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