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    Ramdom issues with AP 7600

    I recently had a Rowe 4900 doing all of these things. Replaced the bulb and starter and all is good. It is very strange that both your Rowe and your AP are doing essentially the same thing...either a big coincidence (both have bad bulbs/starters) or maybe a bad flourescent light in the room near the machines?
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    5591 bottles tipping over

    I can't imagine they care too much about how their cool new bottle shapes vend in 15 year old machines. I haven't tried, but I assume these bottles would vend fine from stacker machines. I don't have new model glass fronts so I can't say if the gates have changed enough to accomodate this bottle.
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    5591 bottles tipping over

    After fighting this for a long time, I finally gave up on that shape bottle. It is too top heavy and the bottom is far from flat. It just cannot be reliably vended from a 5591. Everytime you think you have the right answer with shims or pushers or whatever else you can come up with, you will show up to that picture. I would switch to Crush in the 16.9oz bottle. Sometimes you can even find Sunkist in a 16.9oz bottle. Even if you have to source product somewhere different, it is worth it to not be constantly dealing with mis-vends and service calls. Sorry, wish I had something more positive to say - but I spent about 6 months fighting this battle before giving up.
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    Fruit Flies driving me batty

    Not that I have had fruit fly problems in my machines (fortunately), but you have to kill each generation. While you may have removed all of them the first time, eggs hatch! I personally drown mine in a little bit of red wine left in the glass overnight, but use whatever you can to get them trapped on an ongoing basis and eventually you will get them all.
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    Bevmax display goes out

    It sounds like others have had more experience with true board problems, but in my experience this was caused by the connection to the display panel being loosened over time as the door was opened and closed. Make sure your connections are good - mine reached a point where the machine display would go off and come back on randomly.
  6. This is what I was going to suggest. These machines can be found for a reasonable price fairly often, and the chiller often just needs a recharge as they tend to sit around unused for long periods. I recently picked one up fairly cheap, recharged the chiller and repaired a few switches and it was good. Worked for an account with very specific needs. This is the best answer for what you say you are looking for. However, I have to agree with Moondog. Given the size of the customer base and the prospect of problems with stale product on the snack side, I don't think you are looking at a significant profit. What is the motivation to have a snack and soda machine? Is it just to provide some snacks and drinks to the students and faculty without much thought to profit? Or are you trying to make some cash for the school? Vending is NOT your core competency, do you really want to be dealing with vending issues? An outside vendor will take care of problems, keep stale product out of the machine and generally let you focus on your job. I'm willing to let others make more educated guesses on the potential profit you would be giving up (I don't have an account similar to this), but I'd bet it would be under $1,000 a year, maybe well under.
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    FSI 3132/3038 Combo

    So I have a new-to-me combo, that I picked up to put in a specific account where I think it will work out well despite the well known "combo issues". I'm having a couple problems that I'm hoping someone might have some knowledge about. First, the snack machine (19 selections). Before I bought it, I did a motor count and test vended a few selections, including A1, as well as running a full machine test of all motors. Everything worked fine. Now, at home, I can't get the keypad to register the "A", "B" or "C" buttons. It will not work in service mode when trying to test vend or set prices and it will not work in sales mode to check prices. It still has the proper motor count and a full machine test will turn all motors on those rows. I took the keypad off the door and tried pressing those selections by hand, without using the buttons and it still won't work. Checked the connection on the board and it seems fine. It isn't a really old machine and I'd be surprised if the keypad just failed on the drive home. Any ideas of other things to check? Second, on the soda machine, I need a new over ride switch for one of the motors. My switch says V3L-2227-D8 on it. When I look up the part number (8620718.001), the one everyone carries (not very cheap BTW) says V7-2B17D8-162 on the front. Mine also states it is 10a and 1/4hp, while the replacements I find say 11a, 1/3hp. Anyone know if these are interchangeable? Thanks!
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    I use State Farm and I think my premium this year was $325 for the $1mm policy.
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    Vending route purchase advise

    I was in the same position starting out as you state in #1 and #2 above. I purchased a small route of known dogs for right around machine value, and at 1x gross. I knew then even as a newbie that I was overpaying, but didn't feel that I was going to have too much luck convincing people to let me service their location without an ongoing business. Looking back on it, I don't regret starting that way, it was helpful to get to know the business. However, "small route" is the operative word here. That said, these dogs are the ones I will get rid of when I find a buyer or a location for the equipment. Given that I have the time to service them now, and they make money, I haven't felt the rush to get rid of them, but yea, they bug me. I go with 6-9x monthly gross, with adjustments for how bad I want the location, what pricing is like and the value of the machines. The reality is that a location that is in right in your wheelhouse in terms of gross revenue and proximity to your base or other locations is worth more.
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    Vending route purchase advise

    I'd stay away from this. I mean, sure, if you want to pick up a slow account on the cheap that fits into your route and has great equipment, go for it - occasionally. But to buy a whole route full of those accounts sounds like an exercise in lots of driving, constantly rotating near-expired product, service calls and repairs that eat up months of profit, and a general high level of frustration for a small amount of profit. My route has a few dogs like this, and some really great accounts - I can say for certain that the dogs are highly frustrating and will be gone as soon as I can make it work. And they won't be replaced by anthing doing less than about $500 a month.
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    What's up with Mt Dew?

    I believe it originated as a flavor at Taco Bell, grew in popularity and was then released more widely. There is another flavor that also came up thru Taco Bell but I can't recall what it is. Sorta blows my mind that you can't get regular Mt Dew! Up in OR, we see the new flavors but the vast majority of shelf space is still the regular flavor.
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    TRC 6000

    If it wasn't back to back bad coin mechs, maybe you have a low voltage issue that the 9300L is better at dealing with than the TRC6000s?
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    Cans get punctured when they vend DN501e

    Just had an issue like this and it turned out to be a slight crack/tear in the metal anti theft device (curved thin piece of metal that sticks out from the rotor).
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    another route value thread

    That's a very reasonable price and would be a great location to have. Clearly your vending business will be greatly at risk for quite a while as one location will make up all (and even after you add other locations, nearly all) of your revenue. Not a deal breaker by any stretch. I will say that depending on what it is that the customer wants, don't PLAN on reducing the service cycle like moondog says. Obvioulsy is should be a goal of yours, but if they are married to the glass front with lots of selections, you will have a hard time doing that. I have two glassfronts at similar locations. These locations each gross about a third of your one location and have a snack machine as well. So, the glass fronts are doing say $2000 a quarter in these locations for comparison sake. At that rate, they are already at the edge of a 7 day service cycle. I can go 8 or 9 days and that is it. There is simply only so much product you can stuff in those machines. You may be able to go with multiple facings of popular items and rely on a large can machine (which is what I assume the other drink machine is) for the really popular stuff. That's not an option I have. Basically, I just wanted to point out that you may not be able to lengthen the service cycle at the volume they are running. Just as an aside, I paid roughly the same price as what you are looking at for two glass fronts and two snacks doing about 2/3 of the volume, and I thought that was a pretty good deal. So, the price is definately right. Just be prepared to be spending a lot of time on this baby. And get someone up to speed on backing you up or you may never vacation again!
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    Ramen noodles anyone?

    You probably won't find them in the area with all the snacks, but on one of the main aisles with other pasta products. At costco I get them at about $.25 each and sell them for $1. In my opinon, since you can only sell six per slot, the markup needs to be greater given how much "shelf space" you are giving up versus a 10 or 12 count coil. Put them in on their side, alternating the fat top end every spot.