entervendingman Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Dear colleagues, this March Entervending LLC will take a part in NBVA events for the first time. We want to be closer to our customers and work for our common profit in the best way. This year except of well known brands as Beaver and Northwestern we propose new all-mode gumballs machines produced specially for Entervending. They are different forms and capacities, and the main thing is - they have outstanding feature to vend any refill sized 25 -36 mm trhoug the same wheel. Aiming introducing this items to you face to face I've suggested this poll to choose what machines take to Las Vegas! Here are the items: 1. Small Vendor Machine http://farm9.staticf...a949d3f8d_m.jpg 2. Big Mastyer Machine http://farm9.staticf...b082e6ea5_m.jpg 3. Standard SQ Machine http://farm9.staticf...5fe24dae0_m.jpg 4. Big Vendor Machine http://farm9.staticf...396048db7_m.jpg There you'll be able reach Entervending LLC owner Mr. Eugene Yanchik and senior seller Mr. Albert Ivaldi. The "hotline" phone number now and then is 954 769 0510 (To forum administration: please help me, and move this topic to correct section if it's necessary. I'd really confused with its right placement. Thank you!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 huh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 small vendor machine big master machine standart sq machine big vendor machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 idk looks like lypc/rhino machines,hasnt everyone pretty much seen them, ur prices are about the same as other sellers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Dogcow, you are right about their familiar appearence, but Entervending machines was produced by another manufacturer. Connect us in Vegas to see this items in action. Please use 954 769 0510 phone number,it'll be connected to Mr Yanchik's cell phone for those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priusjames Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Entervending machines was produced by another manufacturer. So.....they're copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 No, they aren't copies, Priusjames. This is just the machines that have familiar appearence and innovative dispensers. Please leave your votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Here\s some picture set to get closer review of this machines. There are several fotos fitted for all mentioned above machines except of Big Vendor one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/entervendingman/8425695651/in/set-72157632653403417/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrCorey Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 but every machine looks like every other machine. Do you think northwestern screamed at A&A when they copied thier stuff? one little change in design and it's no longer a illegal knock off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Thank you FrCorey, very choice words. But despite familiar during decades outward appearance these items have innovative dispensers inside defining them as substantive product. Also Entervending distributes Beaver Machine Corp, Nortwestern Corp and Wizard machines too, but all of you know them very well. So I'd concentrated on new and prospective items to introduce their features to all Vendiscuss members. BouncyBalls, all mentioned in this post machines were produced in China, Entervending imports them straight from their manufacturer with all necessary certification and full kit of spares. For example here's Big Vendor Machines dispensing varieties (a page from the manufacturer booklet)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priusjames Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 but every machine looks like every other machine. Do you think northwestern screamed at A&A when they copied thier stuff? one little change in design and it's no longer a illegal knock off. Wrong, apparently, looking at their response. They apparently wanted to copy the look...so they are copies...with a slight internal mechanism change. I didn't mean to say they were illegal or immoral, just that they copies...which the OP admitted (with internal changes). They are knock-offs, but are completely different? They're copies, with internal changes. And, without actually directly saying "They are made in China", they seem to be made in China. "BouncyBalls, all mentioned in this post machines were produced in China, Entervending imports them straight from their manufacturer with all necessary certification and full kit of spares." I read this to say they are manufactured in China. It mentions the balls being made in China, and machine spares in the same sentence, but that's about it. Oh crud...I just realized bouncyballs is a user name and not a product made in China! Just say what you mean, everybody here is an adult and can make the best choices for ourselves...if we have the information. When it looks like information is being manipulated, with obvious omissions, people are going to be suspicious. For instance, does anybody really believe you're only going to bring ONE of these models to the show? Personally, I think it'd be kind of dumb not to bring them all...somehow I think you're smarter than that. You wanted to get us all excited about *all* the items you're going to be showing, right? Good plan, poor execution (IMHO). If it's made in China, SAY SO, and then price it accordingly. Let us decide if the value for the product offered is a good value, based on facts and honest answers! Personally, I'd rather buy American than Chinese...and I'd be pretty upset if I bought something at the American-made price and learned it was made in China. Just my .25... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treadmill Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 All I can say is buyer beware. The Chinese have gotten very goog at outward appearance of the things they make. I would be leary at the inward makings. Just my .02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Dear Priusjames, your words sound rather sharply. Please don't try out me in such way. It's undoubtedly that every vendor has enough skills does not buy a pig in a poke, just so I'd suggested to see machines face to face. In this case all "Chinese" suspicions will be dissmissed. Entervending hasn't any exhibition spaces this year, we are going as conference members. So this pool was started to easy delivering selected items to Las Vegas as hand laguagge with our representetives from Florida. All taken machines will be shown in private order, please use the phone number 954 769 0510 to contact Mr Yanchik. Thank you for comprehansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priusjames Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Dear Priusjames, your words sound rather sharply. Please don't try out me in such way. It's undoubtedly that every vendor has enough skills does not buy a pig in a poke, just so I'd suggested to see machines face to face. In this case all "Chinese" suspicions will be dissmissed. Entervending hasn't any exhibition spaces this year, we are going as conference members. So this pool was started to easy delivering selected items to Las Vegas as hand laguagge with our representetives from Florida. All taken machines will be shown in private order, please use the phone number 954 769 0510 to contact Mr Yanchik. Thank you for comprehansion. Entervending, thanks for taking the time to read and respond to my post. If you find my words "sharp", perhaps it will help to say that I simply say it like I see it. In no way did I mean to say your product is inferior to something made in the USA (my personal opinion that this is always the case not withstanding) I'm not sure what you are saying, though. Perhaps you can address these questions about your wording, to help me understand better (I believe there might be language translation issues): "All taken machines will be shown in private order" is a sentence I can't understand. "Entervending hasn't any exhibition spaces this year, we are going as conference members" Does this mean that you're going as attendees (not exhibitors), and you'll show us a machine out in your truck in the lot? "Hey, come here...we had an overstock of car speakers from a trade show down the road, look in my trunk"... "It's undoubtedly that every vendor has enough skills does not buy a pig in a poke, just so I'd suggested to see machines face to face"...I think you are saying "let the machines speak for themselves when you see them". Is that right? If so, the fact you've used the plural of "machine" indicates you are intending to bring more than one to show...which contradicts your opening post in this thread asking for votes on which of the four machines you should bring. If you bring less than all four, you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot because your last post says (I *think* it says) we'll be able to see how great they are with our own eyes. If you're only bringing one, how do we see them all with our own eyes? You're clearly looking for pre-sales (each message contains the name of the sales contact), hopefully you're hearing us say "we'll believe it when we see it" and will understand. "In this case all "Chinese" suspicions will be dismissed": That's the best non-answer...I don't understand this sentence, but I take it to say "Yes, the machines are made in China". Perhaps, if you just say, "The machines are made in China, and are every bit as good as USA made machines", and then brought all four machines and let a bunch of us knock them around for a while, we'd all agree in the long run. In the meantime, slippery half answers and the salesman's phone number aren't helping your case (with me). Best of luck, I hope your machines are awesome and you sell a lot of them...if you want to send me a free evaluation unit, I'll be glad to PM my business address. I'll show it around to my peers and put it through it's paces, then make a thorough report right here on Vendiscuss. Thanks again for taking the time to address my post...I sincerely hope your products are awesome. It's going to be tough to find out, unless the price point is better than your US-made competition. When we know how good they are, you can raise the price to be in line with the machines we know and trust. Of course, at that point it'd be giving us a choice of a US made vs. Chinese made (I think) at the same price point. Here's a not-so-secret factoid: Most of us would prefer US made *anything* over imported, it's the low price point on Chinese products that draws us in. Want to sell more machines? My advice would be to price yours below your competition. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Hello Priusjames, thank you for taking the time to do so detailed survey. You'd sucseeded in explaining my point more properly than I could done it by myself. You are right at the most points as about attendees and "let the machines speak for themselves when you see them". Thank you. Saying about "machines" I'd simply meant that we'll have only 2 pairs of hands to bring 2 or max 3 machines with us by airlines from Florida. As Small Vendor, Big Master and Standard SQ machines differ only globe size and minor details any of them makes the point about others. Big Vendor one has another design and I believe it shuold be taken anyway, so I'd voted for it by myself. All machines were produced on the same factory and have identical execution. The contact number allows interrested person to connect Mr Yanchik to appoint meetings among NBVA arrangements to see items and make own decision. Thank you for so unxpected challenge to post your review on Vendisscuss. Unfortunately Entrvending doesn't send free probes no more,we already were decreased by scummers for 2 times. I don't doubt on you anyway, but should ask to pay for it. Please if you want, send me your address and machine type you'd like to exam. But I belive we should have to do this thing after the show to permit other members to amplify your point. Aboute prices...It's hard to explaine, because far from not all things in China cost pennys as the saying goes. Entervending looks through to do business for years so we can't take liberties to provide cheap trash for you. We import deserving items and offer them with well known brands to let operators make their own choice. Entervending does its best in prices and services. Respectly to you James and to all forum's members Vitaliy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Thank you for comprehansion. LOL i cant comprehend most of your posts, OR that instruction manual im guessing your first language isnt english, im not saying it to offend but if you are trying to do sales, you might have someone proof read your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 You are right dogcow, as about 1/5 of modern Americans I'm not a native English speaker. Sometimes speaking I'm feeling myself like Master Yoda ))) BUT, I do my best everyday to improve my language fitness. Thank you for advice, it's very important for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Please leave your votes. Time is running out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 It seems you are open to suggestions, so I think I'll give mine. This whole thread makes your company come across as a little too "cheap". A baggage fee can be paid that would allow you to take an additional check-in item that would hold 1 or 2 more machines. Another option would be to ship the machines to yourself in Vegas. This can be done to the nearest post office, UPS store, or even your hotel if you give them advanced notice. Whether you pay an extra airline baggage fee or shipping costs to vegas via usps/ups, you don't have to pay that on the way back. At the end of the show you could simply give the machines away for review by a TVF member who can publish a review on this forum for you after the machine is put through it's paces. Or, if the machine is as good as you suggest, you should have little trouble selling the display machines at a discount before returning home. Either way, you would save the cost of returning the machines to your warehouse AND get some of your equipment out in the field. Limiting what you make available to your customers for review makes no business sense when you consider the cost of the options in my suggestions. If money is THAT tight with your business that even my suggestions are too costly, customers will re-consider doing business with you for fear that you will close your doors before their order is filled. You don't want to come across as a penny-pinching small-timer when it comes to NBVA or ANY marketing opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Sherlock, your words opened you as mature and well experienced person. Thank you for your fairly opinion and very simple but usefull advices. Frankly I couldn't see such ways by myself ((( I'll suggest them to my direction anyway. The main thing wasn't "cheap". It's a pity that all my words made so awful expression on us. Anyway, the pool is closed. Thank you all for reading and posting. See you in Vegas. My best regards to nepavend, dkochan and mjacks for your votes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkochan Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 If you want exposure at the NBVA show, I suggest donating your machines as prizes for the NBVA Scholarship raffle. Your machines will be displayed at the NBVA booth at the show. Sent from my HTCEVODesign4G using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entervendingman Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Thank you dkochan for so amasing opportunity! I'll certanly hand over your words to directions. I'would be glad to shake your hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priusjames Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 "Thanks for the kind marketing advice, because I haven't bothered to do any marketing research as to how Americans think and why they buy. Also, while I pretend to be grateful for your advice, I actually just like being able to post my sales manager's (?) phone number that costs money to call, and I won't heed anything you suggest . See you soon, GIVE ME MONEY." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I cant say I seen any of these machine or their booth while I was there did they go? I checked the list at NBVA and they were not listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 "Thanks for the kind marketing advice, because I haven't bothered to do any marketing research as to how Americans think and why they buy. Also, while I pretend to be grateful for your advice, I actually just like being able to post my sales manager's (?) phone number that costs money to call, and I won't heed anything you suggest . See you soon, GIVE ME MONEY." LOL well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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