Kalleberg Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 A number of posts have stated that you shouldn't stack the bottles too high in order to avoid jams.... How many rows high is considered to be too many (??) - assuming you're using 20oz vendable Nestle Waters (Ice Mountain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission vending Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 A number of posts have stated that you shouldn't stack the bottles too high in order to avoid jams.... How many rows high is considered to be too many (??) - assuming you're using 20oz vendable Nestle Waters (Ice Mountain) oIWhen I've used Ozarka I don't go higher than 2/3 of a case, 16 bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You can stack the proper bottles up as high as you want. You just have to use Nestle Waters bottles such as your Ice Mountain or any other regional brands from Nestle (don't use it if it is branded Nestle, though) that have ribs around the bottle, top to bottom, to stiffen the bottle. Or you can use Aquafina or Dasani if they are charged with nitrogen to keep them firm when cold. The nitrogen bottles are hard at room temperature. If the bottle is soft when warm, it will be softer when cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walta Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I personally have never seen a 16.9 oz bottle that was vend able in a stack machine. I have seen lots of jams and burn out motors. Stick to the 12 or 20. Walta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalleberg Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thanks - I was going to use the "vendabel" 20oz Ice Mountains in a DN276e column setup for 20oz bottles. Just wasn't sure if stacking them too high would start causing jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhumphrey829 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Does anyone vend water bottles out of single price or can only machines? I have many accounts that ask for it. Can it b done? How? I vend bottled water out of my single priced machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm assuming you just adjust it to vend one item per vend which is the.small.blue tips on a vendo and bring the long column thing for depth closer? All I have here is dasani aquafina nestle members Mark and the ones I sell in multiprice is 20oz Ozarka vendable but they are. 20c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 In most older single price machines you will need a bottle that is the same diameter as 12 oz cans are. This ensures they will vend properly. If you have a DN501T with wide rotors in the narrow columns, you can vend larger bottles from them. But in most single price machines that are 2 deep you will want a 16-16.9 oz bottle. If you use Aquafina or Dasani you need to find bottles that are hard when on the shelf. These bottles will be injected with nitrogen to keep them hard when cold. If you buy anything other than Aquafina or Dasani, you will be better off with the Ozarka you mentioned, but find it in the 16 oz size that has horizontal ribs around the bottle to stiffen the bottle. Those bottles will also not crush when cold. Price doesn't matter if you need a bottle that won't crush when cold and jam the machine. In a single price machine, a jammed column often disables the whole machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nf Vending Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yep on the motor theres something you can flip to turn the selection to bottles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Az at Sam's today I saw 16.9 half listers of Ozarks 35 pack they r only. 13c each r these the ones that work in can single price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 If they have ribbed bottles with horizontal ribs molded around the bottle, top to bottom, then those are what you want to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walta Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have never seen a vend able water bottle that cost less than 25. a unit. If you squeeze an unopened bottle and it has any give at all it will not vend it needs to be as firm as a can. This maybe the only 16.9 that is vend able. http://www.vendingtimes.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=EB79A487112B48A296B38C81345C8C7F&nm=Vending+Features&type=Publishing&mod=Publications::Article&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=50F9944FD97243578E3FD1C6415D482E Walta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 These are the Ozarka they look identical to the 20 oz ones that says vendable except smaller and alot cheaper. These are 13c? Each and the 20oz are 21c http://m.samsclub.com/ip/ozarka-natural-spring-water-bonus-pack/prod2100005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I wouldn't count on those bottles working without problems. I can't speak from experience with that bottle shape in that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Do all Aquafina and dasanis come w nitrogen? Would the 20oz Ozarka I sell in multiprice machines work in the cans I think they r thicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 No, not all Aquafina and Dasani have the nitrogen filled bottles. That's why you must check them every time you buy product, because not every shipment will have nitrogen and a shipment could even be mixed with nitrogen and without. You would have to try the 20 Ozarka and 16 oz, for that matter, to determine if either will work. It's pretty much trial and error if you can't get the correct products. Don't you have a vending product distributor in El Paso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 All we have here are Sam's club and costco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Then if you can't find Aquafina or Dasani firmed up with nitrogen, you should get a case of each size of Ozarka and try them to see if either will work. I assume you have, but you might find a grocery store that carries one of these proper water bottles for you to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorhino Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was looking for shim information & settings for bottled water for one of my machines & found this: http://www.sellbottledwater.com/Vending/VendingMachineSettings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Great Find! This link is exactly what everyone needs in order to find bottles that will work in their machines. Perhaps the mods could make this a sticky at the top of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I have never had any luck with the 16.9(1/2L) bottles. You should only use the 16 oz. bottles from Nestle Waters(Ozark, Deer Park, Zephyr Hill, Poland) that are marked as "Vendable". These bottles are designed for vending. They have ribs built in around the bottle to keep the bottles firm. They are also straight sided bottles, not the contour shape bottles. Use these and you will have no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 So no one does 20oz in can single price machines? At my sams the only that say vendable is 20oz ozarka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partsguy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Can I use these "vendable" water bottles in my old D.N. DCB 170/100-5 single price Pepsi machine with double column? I was told that the model designation DCB stands for Dixie Can & Bottle, 170 cans or 100 bottles, 5 selections. If the water bottles can work, do I have to make any changes to the machine? It has the motors with red/white cams. Also, does anyone have a part number for a coin box for this machine? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You can use any of the regional brands from Nestle that you have in your area. Follow this link http://www.sellbottledwater.com/Vending/VendingMachineSettings from mojorhino's last post above to a listing of brands that will work. In a wide column you would adjust the front cam to only show 2 notches on the outside edge of the main cam so that you can vend 1 deep from that column. The only other adjustment would be the rear spacer. Bring it forward to the bottles, push the bottles against it and make sure you have 1 fingers worth of space between the bottle and the sold out paddle. You can also vend from a narrow column after adjusting the motor cam to one notch in the edge and adjusting the rear spacer. I probably have a coin box for this machine. I think you really have a DN180. If you could post a photo of the area where the coin box should be I will know which one fits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partsguy Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 AZVendor, Thanks for the info. Here is a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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