Toad Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Good times! Kinda shocked to see that the egg machine that everybody is so excited about is so small and so expensive! Oak manufacturing and ok manufacturing were not there. I haven't been to a NBVA/amoa in ten years and I'm very sad too how our industry is dying. Of course there is still money to be made, it's certainly a entire new set of rules and lowered expectations. The best part was being able to network with the other vendors , compare notes and learn from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mike Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Missed another one. I have to figure out a way to make it next year. I really miss the BOSS shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Missed another one. I have to figure out a way to make it next year. I really miss the BOSS shows. Me to mike. But I think the Atlanta show will be kinda like it I hope anyway Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It may not be the biggest kid on the block but it packs a punch. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Good times! Kinda shocked to see that the egg machine that everybody is so excited about is so small and so expensive! Oak manufacturing and ok manufacturing were not there. I haven't been to a NBVA/amoa in ten years and I'm very sad too how our industry is dying. Of course there is still money to be made, it's certainly a entire new set of rules and lowered expectations. The best part was being able to network with the other vendors , compare notes and learn from them havending had said parasail was not going to be there was there any show specials on the egg mnachine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 They didn't come, the machine was being sold at pizza show next door by a biz opp $1700 plus "free" fill of eggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrCorey Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 They didn't come, the machine was being sold at pizza show next door by a biz opp $1700 plus "free" fill of eggs and fine pizza and beer samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Falcon Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Me to mike. But I think the Atlanta show will be kinda like it I hope anyway Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Hav. what show is in Atlanta and when is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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havending Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The new chicken was build as a new version of the ones from years past. The ones from years past were not giant so why would this one be. That would be like making a new version of a two inch cap machine and wanting it to be much larger. Taking into account for inflation I bet the new one is cheaper. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Was there any new products at all? Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderJerry Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 SSM has a new upgrade of their Laser tat line coming out in a few months. Should pre-order as the first shipment is going fast...looks very nice. Also the para-cord bracelets in 2" caps will be available soon. Impulse had the most aggressive discounts on the bulk side, 1" caps from $12 and up...new erasers for 1"...one called 'Go Bananas' is a nice monkey mix for 50 cent 1". Another missing (besides Parsal) from the show was Oak...first time in many decades, I would think...we might be hearing of new ownership soon? The show special price on DB 850 ct gumballs (full pallet price) was 16.7% higher than last year. At that rate of increase, prices will double every 4 years and 3 months or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Was it SSM the one with the bracelets? I remember the days when there was lots of new products at the show Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mike Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I don't doubt it, but was the first time I saw anything near it to compare scale. Either that or GBOkc is huge. That is Ronnie checking out the Chicken. It would have looked much bigger with Glen next to it. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 Thanks mike, but I've put a few buffets out of business since we last seen each other at the Smart factory tour...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderJerry Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Was it SSM the one with the bracelets? I remember the days when there was lots of new products at the show Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Yes, SSM. They had a few other new items coming out too...I just can't remember them and still have not unpacked the van as we stopped in Phoenix and picked up an order from them yesterday morning. Van is also stuffed with floor samples of plush and stuff for cranes from ASD show floors. We only spent a couple of hours on the NBVA / AMOA floor as we had a lot of meetings and only had one half day for that show. Good times! Kinda shocked to see that the egg machine that everybody is so excited about is so small and so expensive! Oak manufacturing and ok manufacturing were not there. I haven't been to a NBVA/amoa in ten years and I'm very sad too how our industry is dying. Of course there is still money to be made, it's certainly a entire new set of rules and lowered expectations. The best part was being able to network with the other vendors , compare notes and learn from them I beat you Glen, we had not been to a NBVA show since San Diego in '98. Did go to the AMOA back in 07, and a few ASD shows as an excuse to visit NYC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronsidney Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 SSM has a new upgrade of their Laser tat line coming out in a few months. Should pre-order as the first shipment is going fast...looks very nice. Also the para-cord bracelets in 2" caps will be available soon. Impulse had the most aggressive discounts on the bulk side, 1" caps from $12 and up...new erasers for 1"...one called 'Go Bananas' is a nice monkey mix for 50 cent 1". Another missing (besides Parsal) from the show was Oak...first time in many decades, I would think...we might be hearing of new ownership soon? The show special price on DB 850 ct gumballs (full pallet price) was 16.7% higher than last year. At that rate of increase, prices will double every 4 years and 3 months or so. I drove out to LA last october for my kids fall break to visit family and i wanted to go to Oak and check it out as I have never had a chance on other trips to LA ..I called them and they said they where relocating to another warehouse or something but told me i could not stop by!! I said "Hey i know i haven't bought machines in a while but i used to order them by the pallet several years ago and i still have hundreds on location." really peed me off they wouldn't let me stop by..a&a rolled out the red carpet for us to tour in the past, i expected more from oak but if they are on the ropes or changing ownership that makes sense now.ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronsidney Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The new chicken was build as a new version of the ones from years past. The ones from years past were not giant so why would this one be. That would be like making a new version of a two inch cap machine and wanting it to be much larger. Taking into account for inflation I bet the new one is cheaper. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 It is a cute machine.. funny thing i thought was the name though.."All American Chicken machine" and the machine is built in china and all the products etc are made in china that it sells..I think its got a niche as i still have people asking me for egg machines because the old ones are broken etc and disappeared..And a "niche" is all it takes for a newcomer operator to slip into your spots with a new machine..I bought cranes from that manufacturer years ago and they where only about 400 for a 24" wide,52" tall crane..I think its very overpriced at that biz op booth we stopped by,,I would think $800 max retail my self would be fair price for what i seen. but of course if you sell 10 machines and make 1000 profit its the same as selling 100 machines with 100 profit and a whole lot less calls for broken chinese parts.. c2c had a version at show i think was cheaper,,had a big monkey in it and it looked good also..Im sure both of these machines are gonna be everywhere over the next few years. ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The c2c is also 1500 unless they had a show deal. I have not seen the monkey in person but looks kinda scary on the website. I to wish that the government would make it more attractive for American companies to make products here. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I wish the greedy Government and unions wouldnt make it impossible for american companies to compete with foreign ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronsidney Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 So if was to build one in america how many of you guys would buy them??? I could produce that machine easily enough..I think i might,,itll take me a few weeks for a prototype.. how important is the bill validator?? i would prefer to be able to vend 4" caps or the 2" caps and eggs,,would be easy to make wheel changeable to both from what i seen.. I have all of my pcb boards built in minnesota as i dont like chinese boards so that would take a minute to get mocked up and produced.. I have thought about it for awhile, i just didnt know if the market was good for it.. To make that machine in china is a wash,,i would guess $50 labor to produce it here in my factory vs $100 shipping from chinese company..bonus for making it here is not alot of inventory,plus if there is a problem with a run I wouldn't have 100 to get rid of before it gets fixed and new container arrives with updated machines..I personally have 100 or more cranes on my routes that had flaws i had to fix because of wires crossed between my requests and chinese thoughts... But most of these companies that dream up a idea of a machine are just salesmen, they dont have the equipment or know how to build their own machines, they just get a idea and its alot easier to get on alibaba and find and factory in china willing to make your item than it is to find a manufacturer here to make your product..Its not always about the price versus convenience.. ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 I wouldn't do a valadator or the 4inch caps. The 4inch big caps, reduces capacity big time, I bet a one inch wheel option might be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Vending Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It would be nice to see an element of interaction not just a 2" capsule machine that has lights and sounds like the chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wouldn't do a valadator Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Coast to coast monkey machine I took a look up close the monkey is way to big, needs to be reduced in size their is two 3 inch green strips of fake grass/jungle on the front display glass I would replace the monkey with a smaller one and razor blade off the fake grass to show the main viewing window better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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