mainor5251 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 http://www.vendingtimes.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=EB79A487112B48A296B38C81345C8C7F&nm=Vending+Features&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&tier=4&id=6CF2FA91B56049FB8A07E6C9AF2993B1 Heres the Florida Government page http://myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/bills.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderJerry Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 If that goes through all you can do is hope they won't enforce that crazy 75 cent limit on cranes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well since it was my state rep that introduced it I dont think Im gonna be able to skate by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well since it was my state rep that introduced it I dont think Im gonna be able to skate by. Just looked at it again looks like it was Trujillo and Patronis. Jimmy Patronis is are rep. I messaged him on facebook earlier but he hasn't responded back yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 That's the same reason a crane license in GA cost 5 grand and 300 per crane because the license it the same as a slot machine. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Looks like my crane career will be short lived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I dont think much chance it will pass and i doubt it will be enforced , remember EVERY amusement park runs these type of games . nobody tells disney what to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Some more interesting reading here in the Sunshine State: Not just gambling, but charity abuses as well, which (from my understanding) was the basis for allowing these "sweepstakes" arcades in the first place. Seems like only a "small percentage" actually went to the charity! Like 2 percent rather than the 70% claimed by the Allied Veterans "Charity". Hmmm. Interesting concept - using a charity to get machines placed!! Looks like the lobbyists did a good snow job on the Florida legislature! Even the Lieutenant-Gov resigned over this! Here are a few quotes from the articles: "The probe and crackdown were aimed at owners and operators of 49 gambling centers connected with Allied Veterans of the World, a registered charity that reportedly gave only 2% of its profits to charitable causes over a three-year period." “Their premise of charity is a lie — a lie to our citizens and a lie to our veterans,” Bailey said. “Our investigators believe that the reality is that each gambling center is operated by the owners of for-profit agencies that funnel the bulk of the money back to themselves.” "The warrant indicates that investigators are looking into how much money Allied Veterans donates to charity. The document says the organization claims it gave 70 percent of $290 million in revenue over the last five years to charity, but investigators can only document $6 million -- or 2 percent -- were given to qualified nonprofit organizations." "Although Allied Veterans is registered as a charitable organization for tax purposes, Bailey said that investigators found that from January 2008 to January 2012 only $5.8 million went to any charitable groups, including those serving veterans. By contrast, he said, “large sums of money have been spent by Allied Veterans of the World on lobbying efforts and donations to political campaigns.” Law-enforcement officials are in the process of seizing 292 bank accounts containing $64.7 million, 170 properties and 80 cars and boats, including Maseratis and Ferraris, they said." “Using the word ‘charity’ to cover a scheme is not only wrong but it is callous and it is despicable,” said Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who has assigned her top prosecutors to the case. “Claiming to be an organization designed to help veterans in order to run an illegal scheme insults every American who ever wore a military uniform.” "Allied funneled the gambling proceeds through for-profit corporations that paid about $90 million to Allied Veterans’ management, its software provider and attorney. More than 100 for-profit corporations, shell companies and Internet cafes were used to hide the money produced by the gambling centers, police said." http://m.news4jax.co...s8/-/index.html http://www.vendingti...680B1142A65DCBC http://www.miamihera...g#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Charity gumball guys been doing it for years. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 no matter what u do never cheat the tax man these guys played too fast and loose for too long my envelope math shows each center grossed $1.4m a year, way less than i thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I dont think much chance it will pass and i doubt it will be enforced , remember EVERY amusement park runs these type of games . nobody tells disney what to do Yea, the Mouse Ears are mightier than the Badge, for sure! Too funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 just fyi before i entered the coin pusher biz i consulted with a friend who is a former prosecutor he advise me that under current FL law crane games are considered illegal slot machines this interpretation of the law is simply not enforced , here is the atty general opinion regarding crane games http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/83D98F804C4951B385256571005E322B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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