shepherdsflock Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I see that S&B sells several different candy and toy mixes for 24" cranes. In a previous thread, I mentioned that I found an old Challenger crane cheap. The guy put some candy in it, and I figure I'll just toss in some capsuled toys and run that to start with. Once that sells, what mix do you recommend in a pizza buffet at 50 cent vend price located adjacent to an 8 way rack selling toys and tattoos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makes Cents Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Since its play till you win and each play pays out multiple pieces you want a cheap mix so smarties, tootsie roll knock-offs and other cheap candy & suckers with a smaller quantity of plastic toys (cars, guns etc) candy to toys maybe 80/20 mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjacks Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 From S&B I usually get the 8.2 toy mix for my toy cranes and the candy cranes get the 3.8 fresh start candy mix. I also get candy from A&A depending on who I am ordering from at that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 From S&B I usually get the 8.2 toy mix for my toy cranes and the candy cranes get the 3.8 fresh start candy mix. I also get candy from A&A depending on who I am ordering from at that moment. What price are you using for the 8.2 toy mix? Are you doing 50 cents per play or 75 cents? Are your machines play until you win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjacks Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 What price are you using for the 8.2 toy mix? Are you doing 50 cents per play or 75 cents? Are your machines play until you win? Mostly $1 play till you win. I might have a random old crane still out there that hasn't been replaced yet at $.50. Candy mostly runs at $.50 play to you win. I recently added a few bouncy ball cranes from ICE selling at $1 play till you win. I just collected the my first one and it filled an entire bill stacker with a couple hundred $ in quarters in the bucket. It expected a bump in production but not that good. Vending 45mm balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Mostly $1 play till you win. I might have a random old crane still out there that hasn't been replaced yet at $.50. Candy mostly runs at $.50 play to you win. I recently added a few bouncy ball cranes from ICE selling at $1 play till you win. I just collected the my first one and it filled an entire bill stacker with a couple hundred $ in quarters in the bucket. It expected a bump in production but not that good. Vending 45mm balls. The machine I'm buying is too old to have a bill validator. Just quarter slots. I can adjust the price in 25 cent increments all the way up to $2. Do you think I could do okay at $1 play till you win without a bill validator with good product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjacks Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think the $1 play will be fine. Always helps to have a DBA but the crane is cheap enough that you won't be under too much pressure to get your money back too quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The machine I'm buying is too old to have a bill validator. Just quarter slots. I can adjust the price in 25 cent increments all the way up to $2. Do you think I could do okay at $1 play till you win without a bill validator with good product? U can add a val to that crane they make em in a box that bolts on to the side and u just wire it in to the power and coin line set the vali to 4 pulse for 1.00 Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch Q using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 U can add a val to that crane they make em in a box that bolts on to the side and u just wire it in to the power and coin line set the vali to 4 pulse for 1.00 Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch Q using Tapatalk 2 Really? What validators work for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Any stackerless or downstacker id recommend a mars u will also need to check what voltages come off ur power supply Ill snap a pick of a machine tomorrow with this set up Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch Q using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Any stackerless or downstacker id recommend a mars u will also need to check what voltages come off ur power supply Ill snap a pick of a machine tomorrow with this set up Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch Q using Tapatalk 2 Could you still post a photo of your machine? This is something I might be interested in trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 now u can get these boxes off happ for $130 or so http://na.suzohapp.com/amusement_products/coin_doors/40-0448-01 or u can try to find one of these cheapo low capacity bill changers like coffee inns and just rip out the guts of the bill changer part and leave the validator and connect it up that way. those will work exactly the same. I've seen those go for 30-50 bucks on CL now to connect it u just drill a hole for the bolt and another for the wiring. get a wiring pinout of the harness to mark off what wire goes to what function. one will go to the coin line and another will go to the ground...now depending if u have a DC or AC validator u might have 1 (DC) or 2 (AC) connections for power. you can ignore the other wires on the validator harness just cap them off with caps or electrical tape. you connect up to the power whatever voltage is needed either coming directly off the power supply, or tap the 110 line coming into the game. If u cant get a suitable DC voltage you might need a transformer but odds are you will be able to find a 12v dc line somewhere getting an 117V AC validator is probably the easiest solution really. just connect the coin line thru to the coin door. splice it in where the coin lines connect to the switches on the mech. its that simple if u done everything right (and u set the validator to FOUR PULSES PER DOLLAR) you should have a working validator following these steps. heres a pic of a coffee inns changer so u know what im talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hmm... I'll think long and hard about this one. It sounds like a good way to increase play, but it will likely cost almost as much as the machine. I'm only paying $375 for the machine. An extra $150-200 to upgrade it to a bill validator sounds like a lot of money for a machine that isn't worth all that much to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hmm... I'll think long and hard about this one. It sounds like a good way to increase play, but it will likely cost almost as much as the machine. I'm only paying $375 for the machine. An extra $150-200 to upgrade it to a bill validator sounds like a lot of money for a machine that isn't worth all that much to begin with. put a val on anything will DRAMATICALLY increase play especially if i can take $1 & $5 if u cant take bills and u leave it @ $1.00 price u wont make very much money not many ppl have that many quarters laying around. I find a lot of $5s in my cranes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 put a val on anything will DRAMATICALLY increase play especially if i can take $1 & $5 if u cant take bills and u leave it @ $1.00 price u wont make very much money not many ppl have that many quarters laying around. I find a lot of $5s in my cranes Until I can do the bill validator, what product mix and vend price do you recommend for a coin-only machine? I'm thinking about a really cheap candy mix priced at 50 cents. Then when I do the validator, switch to a higher value toy mix priced at $1. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Yeah set it on 50c using a 3.2c candy mix. Just to be sure chek a few suppliers for a chaper toy mix cos thst seems high to me I tried candy when I first started and it can get ants, melt and leave crud inside the crane, etc I hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherdsflock Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah set it on 50c using a 3.2c candy mix. Just to be sure chek a few suppliers for a chaper toy mix cos thst seems high to me I tried candy when I first started and it can get ants, melt and leave crud inside the crane, etc I hate it So are you suggesting just going right for a toy mix at 50 cents? I don't think ants will be a problem, but in the summer I could see melted candy becoming an issue. The cheap toy mixes that I would want to sell at 50 cents look pretty junky. I'm afraid they wouldn't sell well. What has your experience been like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So are you suggesting just going right for a toy mix at 50 cents? I don't think ants will be a problem, but in the summer I could see melted candy becoming an issue. The cheap toy mixes that I would want to sell at 50 cents look pretty junky. I'm afraid they wouldn't sell well. What has your experience been like? Ppl go for the 50c toy mix I useits really the novelty of using the game ur majorly overthinking this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 How long does a candy mix from S&B last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjacks Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 How long does a candy mix from S&B last? Probably longer than twinkies. I run through the stuff fast enough not to have to worry about it. Nothing all that perishable in the mixes so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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