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TVF,

I'm interested in a machine listed on my local Craigslist. Its a 2011 Royal Vendor (Model RVCC-550-6). From the pictures, it's a very nice machine. I talked with the owner and she told me that "It will need to be programmed in order for some certain functions to work..." I asked her what she meant and she said that she didn't know much about the machine but: "anytime you have to do anything repair-wise, you have to reset/reprogram the machine."

What does she mean by reprogramming and is that issue/part (whatever needs the reprogramming) worth investing if its not a major repair? 

 


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You sure this ain't stolen?

Rvcc designates a coke spec'd and built unit and 2011 or barely 4 years old is very early for stuff to be sold off

  

Well, I would still like to know what was meant by "programming" before I insinuate that her machine is stolen. If this programming issues is too much to deal with then it won't matter (at least to me).

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TVF,

I'm interested in a machine listed on my local Craigslist. Its a 2011 Royal Vendor (Model RVCC-550-6). From the pictures, it's a very nice machine. I talked with the owner and she told me that "It will need to be programmed in order for some certain functions to work..." I asked her what she meant and she said that she didn't know much about the machine but: "anytime you have to do anything repair-wise, you have to reset/reprogram the machine."

What does she mean by reprogramming and is that issue/part (whatever needs the reprogramming) worth investing if its not a major repair? 

 

Thanks...

That's not a model number I've ever heard of and I own a bunch of Royal machines.  RV is Royal Vendors, CC is Coca Cola, 550 is the can capacity and 6 is the number of selections.  Royal hasn't made anything like that in years - especially not for Coke.  If it's a glassfront machine then it's an RCVV500.  If it's a bubblefront it could be RVCC-804-9 or a RVCC768-10.  Orsd is correct in that any Coke machine less than 5 years old could well be a missing asset (stolen).  The programming of the ex-Coke owned machines is slightly different than the generic models but manuals are available online at Royal's website.  The seller clearly knows very little about this machine - I'd be curious to know how she acquired it.

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Thanks for all the responses. I was told that the machines (she actually has 2) were purchased from a business that went under a few months ago. However, I'm still trying to get an answer to my initial question which is "what is the programming component that is not working? Is this something like the coin mechanism whereby it's a stand alone part or does it involves multiple components?

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I think the programming should match this manual.

http://royalvendors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/giiiplus.pdf

programming is pages 17 to 41

you may not use all of the possible programming options

Probably the set time, set prices, set product depth (for different package types - bottles/cans, maybe space to sales are the basic ones you need to understand.

Other things like language selection, set temp, sales counters are things you may use once (if ever).

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I think the programming should match this manual.

http://royalvendors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/giiiplus.pdf

programming is pages 17 to 41

you may not use all of the possible programming options

Probably the set time, set prices, set product depth (for different package types - bottles/cans, maybe space to sales are the basic ones you need to understand.

Other things like language selection, set temp, sales counters are things you may use once (if ever).

Thanks Falls. I scanned through it. Seems straight forward. I'm still trying to understand if the programming issue something  that the computer is reading (like an error code) or if its the part (which is whatever holds and does the actual "programming"). If that makes sense... She said that every time she opened up the machine that it had to be reprogrammed. Again, She's unfamiliar with the machine but I'm probably a day ahead of her on knowledge. 

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This machine will be no different than other Royal multiprice machines in that it has one logic board that controls the whole machine.  This includes the coin mech, bill validator, temperature sensor, refrigeration, lights and the vend sensor.  The coin mech and bill validator will connect to the board through an interface known as MDB, multi-drop bus.  This is similar to USB on computers where the components communicate through the same channel.  There are some models of MDB coin mechs that have their own programming so the operator can control coin tube levels and monitor the performance of the coin mech, but this machine may not have one of these.

 

None of these components should "require reprogramming" when opening the machine door or closing it.  This seller may not know what they are talking about or perhaps there is a problem with the logic board or coin mech.  Until you see the machine and have them show you what it does you won't know what they're talking about.  Any of the parts can be replaced if they are malfunctioning and then you will have a properly working machine.  It sounds like you are in no way familiar with these machines but once you get one you will figure it out, especially with manual and with our help here.  If you go to see the machine and can identify the problem, deduct a couple hundred dollars for the upcoming repair if you choose to buy it, then you will be covered for the expense of repairing it.

 

If you do need parts for it you can PM me for replacements.

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This machine will be no different than other Royal multiprice machines in that it has one logic board that controls the whole machine.  This includes the coin mech, bill validator, temperature sensor, refrigeration, lights and the vend sensor.  The coin mech and bill validator will connect to the board through an interface known as MDB, multi-drop bus.  This is similar to USB on computers where the components communicate through the same channel.  There are some models of MDB coin mechs that have their own programming so the operator can control coin tube levels and monitor the performance of the coin mech, but this machine may not have one of these. None of these components should "require reprogramming" when opening the machine door or closing it.  This seller may not know what they are talking about or perhaps there is a problem with the logic board or coin mech.  Until you see the machine and have them show you what it does you won't know what they're talking about.  Any of the parts can be replaced if they are malfunctioning and then you will have a properly working machine.  It sounds like you are in no way familiar with these machines but once you get one you will figure it out, especially with manual and with our help here.  If you go to see the machine and can identify the problem, deduct a couple hundred dollars for the upcoming repair if you choose to buy it, then you will be covered for the expense of repairing it. If you do need parts for it you can PM me for replacements.

Ahhh. Thanks AZ! You answered my question. Like i mentioned, I'm green at this so I wanted to know if it was an issue that could be fixed at a reasonable price. The machine is in excellent condition and for the price, it was very much intriguing. I just didn't want to buy it only to fond out that the "programming issue" was a death sentence for soda machines

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If she bought it from a biz that went under there is a good chance that coke put them there and someone put a lien on the property and took everything and auctioned it off

To check for sure, look at the edge of the door on the left side

If there is a tag that says property of your local coca cola bottler then its probably still coke owned

Also even if there is no sticker get the serial number from the mfgs tag also on the left of the door and call coke up and give them this number to see if coke sold it off or not

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