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I searched the forum and couldn't really find a decent answer so here's the thread to consider the question.... If you got the OK to place a drink machine at a midsize to small location (think auto repair or similar blue collar that gets customer traffic) then what machine would you hope to find used if you were looking on Ebay, craigslist or from a refurbisher.

 

Assume it will sit outside, so consider the machine that will work trouble free without jams, will go strong in hot and cold weather and could most easily be made "vandal proof" if necessary.

 

Also consider what models are most likely to be found used.  Some great machines may be pretty scarce to find because they are great.

 

What three brand and model of machines would you look for?

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I would only look at single price DN or Vendos and the Vendos would have to have rotors under each column.  The DN will be the best choice for the type of location you describe because they are bullet-proof to begin with and can be secured easily with lock covers and side hasps.  Single price machines are also less likely to be damaged by water and weather.  You will probably find the DN machines much more plentiful as well.

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my top 3 would probably be:

 

1. Dixie Narco 501e (very versatile and parts are easy to get)

2. Multiprice big Vendo like a V-Max (I have a couple and my experience has been great)

3. Dixie Narco single price (most common machine around here and simple bulletproof design with great parts availability)

 

I know Royals are probably good too, but I have no experience with them so I can't honestly say.

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Dixie Narco 501-E

 

Puck locks top and bottom

 

Hardened bill validator bezel

 

Medco plug lock no lock cover

 

No Vendo's they have two knockouts one right above the bill validator that gets broken out all the time to access the bill validator

 

If I were using a bottlers vendor Vendo 721 HVV... That is a big button and uses the Tritech lock. 

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Dixie Narco 501-E

 

Puck locks top and bottom

 

Hardened bill validator bezel

 

Medco plug lock no lock cover

 

No Vendo's they have two knockouts one right above the bill validator that gets broken out all the time to access the bill validator

 

If I were using a bottlers vendor Vendo 721 HVV... That is a big button and uses the Tritech lock. 

Where is the best place (cheapest and best service) to get puck locks?  Also, where do you get a hardened bezel?

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I figured the 501e would show up on this list.  Looking on ebay there are a number of these multiprice machines for $1200 - $1500.  DIdn't see any single price.   If I went to a refurbisher is this about the price I'll pay?   Let's say I can't find any on craigslist, etc and go to a refurbisher.  Am I in the $1000 range for a single price and $1500 for a multiprice?

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I figured the 501e would show up on this list.  Looking on ebay there are a number of these multiprice machines for $1200 - $1500.  DIdn't see any single price.   If I went to a refurbisher is this about the price I'll pay?   Let's say I can't find any on craigslist, etc and go to a refurbisher.  Am I in the $1000 range for a single price and $1500 for a multiprice?

From what I've seen of flea bay - most of these guys are on a fishing trip and their prices are way high.  Dixie 501es are fairly common and you should be able to get one off CL for under a grand. A single price machine should never exceed $400.

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It could be hard to find a single price 501E and if you were getting a 501E why even bother with single price.  If you need good capacity and you're running cans and maybe water bottles just get a 501T as those are very plentiful and cheaper, too.  You should be able to get a nice 501T single price for under a grand, more like $800 maybe.

 

I also have the hardened bezels for the validators and I think I still have two puck locks left in stock, keyed alike.

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Ah, got it.  501E is a multiprice for bottles and cans.  What's the model then when looking at single price?  IS the Vendo VMax a single price?

 

What I'm thinking of here is when I get my ducks in a row I will start trying to locate more.....looking for those locations like I mentioned above.  So, if I get an OK (or ten hopefully) then I'd like to know what I want so I can just have machine ready to go or at least ready to look for one.

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Ah, got it.  501E is a multiprice for bottles and cans.  What's the model then when looking at single price?  IS the Vendo VMax a single price?

 

What I'm thinking of here is when I get my ducks in a row I will start trying to locate more.....looking for those locations like I mentioned above.  So, if I get an OK (or ten hopefully) then I'd like to know what I want so I can just have machine ready to go or at least ready to look for one.

Probably the best single priced machine you'll find is the Dixie 440.  Around here used machines are coming out of the woodwork but other places, like where Cajun lives. you can rarely find anything you'd want (personally I think TC scoops them all up just to piss him off  ;D ) It always helps to have some space to stash a machine or two as you often won't be able to find one when you need it fast enough.

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The Vmax is a multiprice 4 deep machine.  Most 501E's are multiprice.  Most DN 368/440/501T are single price.  Vendo 407/475 are single price but you have to make sure you get one with rotors under each column.

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To reiterate whst AZVendor was saying... not all 501e's are multiprice! Not all 501Ts are single price!

The 501T I bought was M.P. and cost me $900, it had the older VFM style DBA in it.

 

I upgraded it to a Mars VN dba and it was set up for bottles, 16.9oz.

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I searched the forum and couldn't really find a decent answer so here's the thread to consider the question.... If you got the OK to place a drink machine at a midsize to small location (think auto repair or similar blue collar that gets customer traffic) then what machine would you hope to find used if you were looking on Ebay, craigslist or from a refurbisher.

Assume it will sit outside, so consider the machine that will work trouble free without jams, will go strong in hot and cold weather and could most easily be made "vandal proof" if necessary.

Also consider what models are most likely to be found used. Some great machines may be pretty scarce to find because they are great.

What three brand and model of machines would you look for?

Dixie Narco is a Great machine. It's the only brand I use.
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I recommend any singleprice at the beginning simply because there are less parts than a multiprice machine. Either it works or it doesn't. It's a lot easier to diagnose a singleprice. It's not taking money? Either a jammed motor or coin acceptor problem (or no power). It steals money? Coinmech problem. It doesn't dispense soda? Mechanical problem from motor to rotor.

With multiprice, the problems get more complicated.

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Probably the best single priced machine you'll find is the Dixie 440.  Around here used machines are coming out of the woodwork but other places, like where Cajun lives. you can rarely find anything you'd want (personally I think TC scoops them all up just to piss him off  ;D ) It always helps to have some space to stash a machine or two as you often won't be able to find one when you need it fast enough.

 

Moondog.......... Those 440 are a beast to move......  I won't move 79" unless it is outside.... AZ is correct D/N 501T is the best for single price. Stay away from the earlier D/N 600. Pre 90 Series. The stack was weak and if it does't have the supports on the narrow columns it will jam all the time. When loading the narrow columns the cans will spread out the stack and then that pushes the bottom in and jams the cans. They mad a kit to fix it but not sure how many got it. 

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Moondog.......... Those 440 are a beast to move......  I won't move 79" unless it is outside.... AZ is correct D/N 501T is the best for single price. Stay away from the earlier D/N 600. Pre 90 Series. The stack was weak and if it does't have the supports on the narrow columns it will jam all the time. When loading the narrow columns the cans will spread out the stack and then that pushes the bottom in and jams the cans. They mad a kit to fix it but not sure how many got it. 

What do I care if they're a beast to move Roger - I pay to have all my machines moved so I figure I'm just getting my money's worth  ;D

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To reiterate whst AZVendor was saying... not all 501e's are multiprice! Not all 501Ts are single price!

501e  the "e" means extended cabinet for 2 deep bottles where all non e machines (from what ive seen) only accept cans 2 deep and possibly 20oz 1 deep (correct me if im wrong)

 

I have found and purchased a few non "e" machines that are multiprice and I am using cans only in those, but seem to be really good machines.

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501e the "e" means extended cabinet for 2 deep bottles where all non e machines (from what ive seen) only accept cans 2 deep and possibly 20oz 1 deep (correct me if im wrong)

I have found and purchased a few non "e" machines that are multiprice and I am using cans only in those, but seem to be really good machines.

Sort of yes and sort of no. The e does stand for extended cabinet and it does hold 20oz bottles two deep or cans 3 deep. A 501T will also hold cans 3 deep as it was designed but cannot vend 20oz bottles due to width, not depth. To my knowledge, you can go 2 deep on 16.9 oz in a 501T because the width is okay, even though a 16.9oz is just as long as a 20oz.

A 368, for example, is a 2-can-deep machine and it cannot vend 16.9oz more than 1-deep.

The model does not tell you whether it is singleprice or not. A credit display is about the only way to tell from outside.

I have a singleprice 501e and a multiprice 501T so I know how it can be.

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One clarification, the T-model machines do have the column width for 20 oz bottles though they will only load one bottle deep, with the exception being Gatorade.  The key is that to do the larger bottles you will need a wide rotor in the narrow columns.  Early machines came with narrow rotors for cans even though the columns were wider.  On those machines you would have to change the rotors.  You can also do 20 oz in the wide columns with proper shims and a white motor cam.

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Single prices machines maybe cheaper, however I don't think they are worth buying as they will not turnover as much money as the multiprice where you can add energy drinks and bottles etc. I had a few single price drink machines, however we have now converted several selections in each machine to multiprice  to allow us to vend  the higher price drinks.

 

Although now you can buy conversion kits for the old drink machines which turns them into multiprice and the package consists of a 6 tube mech and live display, cost under 1k

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I do like the royals, but hard for me to find used at a good price... I go with DN first then the vendos.... I have 1 using that so far hasn't been a problem, but time will tell....

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In your ballpark estimation from personal experience - how many drink machines in locations such as I said at the start of this thread (just small places with a little retail traffic that don't currently have a machine)......how many machines would it take to profit $2500 a month?

 

This is selling cans at 75 cents (cost would be a quarter each).   So, let's be conservative and say $5000 gross is needed.  30-35?

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