AP 113 & National 147

[laip51]

Local re-furbisher has AP 113 and National 147 for sale at  $1400 ea. He claims both MDB and DEX conversions. I understood that the 147 was not capable of conversion...don't know about the 113 but skeptical of both. Also high prices for these older machines. I am only buying snack machines able to do CC. I know everyone on the forum talks lower prices but such are slim here except for just junk. Any comments welcome.

[moondog]

Local re-furbisher has AP 113 and National 147 for sale at  $1400 ea. He claims both MDB and DEX conversions. I understood that the 147 was not capable of conversion...don't know about the 113 but skeptical of both. Also high prices for these older machines. I am only buying snack machines able to do CC. I know everyone on the forum talks lower prices but such are slim here except for just junk. Any comments welcome.

After market MDB boards are available for both of these machines from VE.  The AP113 is probably the more popular of the two and the price is not bad for a refurbished machine with an updated board.  The National has an issue with the tray connections that makes this model one to avoid.

[rmorris1953]

Both can be upgraded with InOne and Ve boards. I prefer the VE board. That would make both MDB. If it had drop sensors and dual coils that wouldn't be to bad delivered and setup on location. Little steep if you have to ship and then deliver to location yourself.

[AZVendor]

Don't let them claim that unless the machines have aftermarket boards in them.  The factory boards from both won't do MDB.

[SCOTT1963]

if those machines are A1 refurbs with all the bells and whistles then that is a good deal.