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Crane National 167 With Chiller


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I would buy more if I could find them but they never come up for sale on Kijiji here in the great north. Only problem that comes up is the odd broken wire on the tray harness, simple fix. I have 10 167's and 8 168's(4 wide)

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Nationals are like nothing you've used before and there is quite a learning curve for programming and troubleshooting issues. The thing that has always led me to dislike them is the way National used a variety of circuit boards in each model. For example, a snack machine will have a main logic board, a snack interface board, a coin mech power board, individual shelf boards, a gum/mint interface board, and when chilled there will be an interface board for that or at least a temp sensor that is it's own circuit board. Any combo machines have two c/bs for the can module. It's just ridiculous how complicated they made these and trying to figure out what is wrong is like chasing your tail sometimes.

With that said, vendors who use primarily National equipment love them because it's all they know. I can say that they are the worst to figure out issues with compared to AP, AMS, USI, Rowes and most anything else.

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WoW!

 

Thanks AZ!

 

I was looking at parts for these machines and seen all the different boards for the machines.

 

I told the guy I was very interested in machine, but if it don't work like it suppose to!

 

Then I want waste my time with it, I will just buy his DN 600E and move on!

 

Thanks for all input from everybody on machine.

 

cajun

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I operate over 500 Crane 167/168. There is a main computer board that works in the food and coffee as well with an EPROM change. There is a motor control board, depending on if it's in a snack, chilled snack, food or coffee. I have never seen a chilled 167 and would not buy one because of the high cost of refrigeration parts from Crane. That said, I wish all of my snack machines were 167s.

 

The most common problems are the shelf harnesses, mainly the candy shelf tend to lose motors (cost around $10.00). The other weak spot is the change cup trim and door break easily and also costs less than $10.00 to fix.

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I operate over 500 Crane 167/168. There is a main computer board that works in the food and coffee as well with an EPROM change. There is a motor control board, depending on if it's in a snack, chilled snack, food or coffee. I have never seen a chilled 167 and would not buy one because of the high cost of refrigeration parts from Crane. That said, I wish all of my snack machines were 167s.

 

The most common problems are the shelf harnesses, mainly the candy shelf tend to lose motors (cost around $10.00). The other weak spot is the change cup trim and door break easily and also costs less than $10.00 to fix.

Thanks lacanteen!

 

Machine is a 167/764 with 764 means it has a chiller unit.

 

I do have a AP 6600 deep with a factory installed chiller and I have had no problems with it!

 

It came out of a storage unit I bought for $100!

 

I put a VE board in it and it works great!

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Thanks lacanteen!

 

Machine is a 167/764 with 764 means it has a chiller unit.

 

I do have a AP 6600 deep with a factory installed chiller and I have had no problems with it!

 

It came out of a storage unit I bought for $100!

 

I put a VE board in it and it works great!

I'll give you $250 for it. ;D

I'll even pick it up!

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Okay

 

Update on this Crane National machine I went look at, turns out it is a Crane 721 outsider snack machine.

 

Did I buy it? Yes!

 

It needs a repaint, a motor, and a little tlc! lol!

 

AZ, your right on the crazy amount of boards in machine!

 

Board for every tray, board for chiller, main board, seen one glass fuse behind power panel.

 

It came with a mei recycler dba and a mars cf 7000.

 

Picked it up for five bills.

 

cajun

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Okay

 

Update on this Crane National machine I went look at, turns out it is a Crane 721 outsider snack machine.

 

Did I buy it? Yes!

 

It needs a repaint, a motor, and a little tlc! lol!

 

AZ, your right on the crazy amount of boards in machine!

 

Board for every tray, board for chiller, main board, seen one glass fuse behind power panel.

 

It came with a mei recycler dba and a mars cf 7000.

 

Picked it up for five bills.

 

cajun

It'll make a nice trot line weight some day. I ditched all of our outsiders as they went down. The mech, val and main board are worth what you paid.

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It'll make a nice trot line weight some day. I ditched all of our outsiders as they went down. The mech, val and main board are worth what you paid.

So as the chiller deck went out you scraped them?

 

cajun

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So as the chiller deck went out you scraped them?

 

cajun

Yes. The Outsider was a poor spin-off of the 455 frozen which wasn't much to begin with. Refrigeration deck "update" $2100.00. The wrestling match to get the inner door open? Not worth it.

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Why scrap them when you can just use as a regular snack machine

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The cabinet and access doors are a pain. Some of the door lock parts are no longer available. I part out spirals, tray harnesses, rail boards, and main board & credit display. These machines have been outside for quite some time.

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