AngryChris Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I was in a bit of a rush and I put a refer deck for a small cabinet into what I think is a dn-440. I realized the issue with making it fit but I still got it in. Is there anything wrong with this? Do the smaller decks work just like the larger ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDERSONVENDING Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I was in a bit of a rush and I put a refer deck for a small cabinet into what I think is a dn-440. I realized the issue with making it fit but I still got it in. Is there anything wrong with this? Do the smaller decks work just like the larger ones? All the 2 deep machines take the same refer, only the e machines are different. Hope this helps John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Despite being a 2-deep machine, I pulled the larger-style deck out of this machine and the smaller deck didn't seem to fit properly. I had to bend the refrigeration line just to make it line up with the gap in the tank. I think that this 79" tall machine was designed for a 3-deep deck due to being a larger cabinet space, but I am not sure... it's just a head-scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Heck I put a three deep newer style deck in a DN 180. cajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 All the 2 deep machines take the same refer, only the e machines are different. Hope this helps John You are correct, but also the 3 deep T-Models use the same as 2 deep. There were filler plates years ago for the evap mounting when Dixie streamlined the decks for stack models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The 2 deep machines had the same evaporator but two condensers - one for small cabinets like DN180 or 276 and one for larger cabinets which had three rows of tubes. The freon lines were all the same for those. The T model 3 deep machines had the same condensers but two evaporators - one full width for Coke machines and one standard width. These freon lines were all the same. The difference between the two deep and three deep line was the distance from the front edge of the tank to the evaporator which was 2-2 1/2" longer on T models. You could always carefully bend the lines on a T model unit to fit it in a 2 deep machine but trying to stretch the lines on a 2 deep unit is not recommended due to the stress on the joints of the evaporator and the accumulator. The E models all had lines a little longer than the T models, unless you have an early E model with the styrofoam-insulated front edge on the front of the tank which covered the T model lines so that unit could be used in early E models. DN quickly learned that the front insulated edge was a problem when parts were not reinstalled after a compressor swap which then left about a 2" air gap all along the front edge of the tank. This was when the E model cooling units began production with lines longer than the T models. Very few of the E's with this tank style were produced and, of course, even fewer even exist today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Thank you for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refreshments Made Easy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 :-XWhoa! I wish I knew what you guys were talking about. What is the difference between the Dixie Narco's with the last letter? DN600E DN501E DN501T Please explain so that I can catch up to you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 E and T are the series. First came the single prices, then the T series, also single price, then the interim ER series, based on the E but also single price. The E was made '93-mid 2000's, it was a multi price stack vendor, so named E for Extended cabinet as it could fit 20 oz pop 2 deep. Also there are prefixes, like MC for Pepsi's Magnum Curve and CC for Coca Cola. The number itself like 369 440, 501, 600 is the capacity in cans. E was made in 501, 600 and 522, with 522 being the 6 wide columns for Arrowhead waters/Nestle Waters/Other regional Nestle waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Depending on age of the machine, 2 deep machines had no suffix unless the door style is not standard. So you'll see CC for Coca Cola door, M for Magnum front (Pepsi only) where Magnum refers to the door having all selection buttons 1x3 in size and vertically positioned on the door. MC is Magnum Circular (Pepsi only) where the Magnum door is curved (bubble front). Pepsi was the first to have bubble front doors. R is used for Veryfine Juice doors and for Gatorade doors. Coke's bubble front door was called a Landscape Door (had no special suffix) and appeared after Pepsi began using bubble fronts. The landscape machines all used the selection panels with round push buttons where the labels were placed behind a clear lexan selection panel. The first 3 deep machines were labeled at T models for Triple Depth. Those would also use the CC, M, MC, R and even D3 for Dr. Pepper doors and these letters would replace the T suffix on such machines. There was also a Frankensteined machine called the Flex-Pak that came out briefly in the early 90s. This machine used pull-out stacks of 4 columns that had individual solenoids under them for dispensing cans. There were 5 such stacks in the machine of which only one could be pulled out at a time. They were a logistical nightmare for reloading if you didn't load your card perfectly in line with order of the selections in the stacks. Their SIID boards are not really SIID boards, they just use the same case. The programming is specific to the Flex-Pak model and was the first machine that depended on Space-to-Sales (STS) for mapping every selection to a specific button on the door due to there being more selections than there were buttons on the door. The later 3 deep machines are labeled E models for Extended Cabinet which means they are capable of 20 oz bottles, 2 deep. If you see any machines with the P suffix designator they are called the Pegasus series which appeared about 10-12 years ago with the intent that they would replace the E models. These machines are all narrow columns with a different vend mechanism and different programming than standard SIID boards. This was an attempt by DN to match the popularity of the Vendo V-Max series of machines and their 10 selections. The P series machines were a horrible design in both mechanics and software and are not recommended to the faint of heart operator. They had cooling system problems, programming nightmares, sensor corrosion, vend mechanism failures, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I operate over 800 Dixie Narco stack models with the following 2 decks: 560,346,500.14 system 1200CE for 2 deep and T-Models 62904030 system 3001 for all E-models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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