AZVendor Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 If the red light you're talking about is on the GFI at the end of the cord and you have no power to the machine then the GFI is bad or your cord is damaged and shorted out. Cut the GFI off and put a new plug on the cord if there's no damage to the cord. If the machine with just a plug on it (not GFI) still then trips the building's circuit breaker then you have a 110v short in your machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The only thing that the refrigeration deck and the electronics should have in common is the cord itself, so it's possible that the power cord is damaged or disconnected from the transformer.. I think.. The first thing I would do is to verify that the outlet works by plugging something into it, then I would check the cord and trace it all the way. It sounds like the outlet is good, so my money is on the connection between the cord and the power supply/transformer. I suppose the transformer could be bad too but that's beyond my knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris1953 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Usually, when those GFI's go bad and don't work the box is still warm. That indicates the power is still on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Well its plugged into the same outlets as the other 2 machines and the little light is kinda a dim red. The machine could not have been moved or the cable pinched as its wedged vetween the other 2 and the employees there have never messed with them. So the chord was working for months and the machine not tampered with. Is there a fuse or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm not 100% sure but I believe the refrigeration deck on that Vendo will work even if the electronics are off, so a fuse wouldn't be the culprit. I would check the plug at the bottom of the cabinet. It's possible that it came out. As stated already though, if the machine has a gfci on the cord, it could have gone bad. Having a failed gfci is a totally common thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rmorris1953 Posted May 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2016 If you carried one of these in the time it took me to post this you would already know what the problem was. $10. You can test the outlet, you can run it along the cord and it will light up with power applied until you come to the break in the cord. If your ground is broken on the plug it will light up if you touch it to the metal of the vendor. It is a life safer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Since Vendo started building the Vmax all cooling systems are controlled by the logic board by using the temp sensor and a refrigeration relay. This means the cooling system won't run independently in the V721. There is a door switch at the lower left of the cabinet and there is, I believe, a power plug that you pull out in that same corner that kills power to the machine. If there is 110v in to that corner of the machine and the machine doesn't work properly then you need to look at everything from the transformer to the logic board. There should also be a fuse somewhere before the logic board as well. If you still don't have a volt/ohm meter or don't know how to properly use it, now is the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 So cut the wire after the gfi thing then splice a normal plug adapter in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris1953 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 A few years back Pepsi took all male and female plugs off service trucks. And forbid the use of them. They also forbid the practice of jury rigging. Electricity is the most dangerous thing you will encounter most likely in vending and safety is the most important aspect for you and your customer. You would be surprised at how many people do not know how to put a plug on a cord. I have seen it many times the plug is wired backwards. You might think this is not a big deal. It is a big deal because now the cabinet is hot. If the cabinet is hot and someones child walks up barefooted on concrete they will be electrocuted and may not survive. If the vendor is sitting beside another vendor that is wired correctly you now have a hot cabinet next to a grounded one. Touching both at the same time will kill you. I had a neighbor that was a Sears technician who went out and was installing a garbage disposer and was plugging it in and for some reason, there were unprotected wires in the back under the sink. He grabbed them and was electrocuted. He told me while he was being shock, and couldn't get loose he was able to get his legs in front of him and force himself loose. Permanent damage to his shoulder and was off work for a year. https://www.amazon.com/Tower-Manufacturing-Attachable-Right-Angle/dp/B011BDWS5Y/ref=dp_ob_title_def Something you need to keep in mind if you cut that gfi off you have made yourself liable for anything that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris1953 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Something that will save time and money. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N3JJPYC?psc=1 Don't use the cheap automotive crimpers. These are the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is the gfi the same as just installing a regular outlet on it and have it attached to a resetable power strip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falls Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is the gfi the same as just installing a regular outlet on it and have it attached to a resetable power strip? NO. A GFI looks at the current travelling in the active and neutral wires and trips if they are not balanced, which indicates that current is leaking to earth somewhere on the appliance side of the GFI. Most powerboards only have an overcurrent function which trips when the current is higher than the board allows. This protects against surges/lightening strikes, etc but does not trip for resistive earth faults. It will trip for short circuits in the appliance, but can still allow leakage to earth that does not draw a significant current. There are powerboards that have GFI's built in, and GFI's that have overcurrent circuit breakers, but they are not the norm, so don't blindly assume that what you buy does both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I have had the same problem with our v21 machines with inline GFI's. We have eliminated the GFI cords and went to wall based GFI's with absolutely no failures since that time. Oddly enough, Vendo sells both GFI and non-GFI replacement cords for this machine making me believe they are offered new with either setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Does anyone know where I can get the clips for the 720 product dispense tray. I have one that is warping. I checked D&S Vending and Vendors Exchange to no avail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 What is a product dispenser tray? Do you mean the delivery chute? There are no clips for them. You can't get the chute liners any longer because they are prone to warping. You have to get a new coated chute from Vendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Setting everything correct is definately what to do first. Here is a work around that doesn't fix the problem, but helps. I have a timer set on my Vendo 720 to turn off for a couple of minutes and the turn back on. The machine re homes, and it fixes a lot of glitches. It is basically buying me time until I can replace some motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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