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Company is selling a Crane 147 SureVend MDB upgrade for a smoken price. New tough front vinyl installed as well, it looks to be completely refurbished. This is a good all-around machine yes? Crane has so many different model numbers I'm not sure if this one is 30, 20, 10 years old?

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I am not a fan of this machine, for 3 reasons: The inside is hard to make look nice due to the awful paint scheme. In order to function reliably the shelves need to be wired direct which takes a few hours and $175.00. Lastly, the transformer is weak. It can barely handle a MDB bill with a solenoid payout changer. Add a MDB card reader and that board will struggle, even if you wire both 24VAC outputs together.

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IMO the 147 is a good machine, although they did have some drawbacks. The shelf connection being one. I'm seeing refurbished ones anywhere from 1300-1600. This includes fresh paint, tuff front and rebuild mech and Val. I found one for 1600 from a reputable company that already had the tray harness installed. For 400 more you get the new board with mdb and survend. What price are they asking?

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To add, I don't have any experience with the upgraded 147 to mdb. So I'm sure lacanteen is on to something. I think they are good in its original state with the harness upgrade. that's just been my experience. If I need mdb I have been upgrading to 167

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IMO the 147 is a good machine, although they did have some drawbacks. The shelf connection being one. I'm seeing refurbished ones anywhere from 1300-1600. This includes fresh paint, tuff front and rebuild mech and Val. I found one for 1600 from a reputable company that already had the tray harness installed. For 400 more you get the new board with mdb and survend. What price are they asking?

$1195 on ebay. Unfortunately shipping is $458 to WA from him on the east coast.

I am not a fan of this machine, for 3 reasons: The inside is hard to make look nice due to the awful paint scheme. In order to function reliably the shelves need to be wired direct which takes a few hours and $175.00. Lastly, the transformer is weak. It can barely handle a MDB bill with a solenoid payout changer. Add a MDB card reader and that board will struggle, even if you wire both 24VAC outputs together.

Thanks. I'm going to pass because of shipping rates, but this just confirms it.

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Are the 148s a diferent ball game? 167s too

Meant 167s and 168s

148 is the 4 wide version of 147. 167/168 are already mdb with servend and have no problems running cc readers that I have experienced so far. All I have been ordering the past few months are refurbished 167/168
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If the machine had the tray harness upgrade included, plus new vinyl fronts, plus MDB and surevend upgrade- would you still pass? I had a local guy also tell me that the 147s just not worth it anymore. He'll take $1000.

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They are old but good machines.  I wouldn't buy a stock National 147/148 for $1,000.  I would rather invest that into a later model, even if the later model is also used.

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I'm not saying it is a bad or good machine.

 

Personally i think my hard earned money is better spent on something newer.

 

If i am going older all i will take is a 110 series.

 

iF newer, 160 series machines are what I prefer.

 

Try to keep it streamlined to cut costs, I keep it to 4 machines in the mix.

 

AP110's, NAT160's, DIX501's and DIX BevMax.

 

Thats it for me.

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I'm not saying it is a bad or good machine.

 

Personally i think my hard earned money is better spent on something newer.

 

If i am going older all i will take is a 110 series.

 

iF newer, 160 series machines are what I prefer.

 

Try to keep it streamlined to cut costs, I keep it to 4 machines in the mix.

 

AP110's, NAT160's, DIX501's and DIX BevMax.

 

Thats it for me.

 

Totally agree with you in regards to streamlining especially as I am 8000 miles away from getting parts.... I am just curious on which model BevMax's you are using?

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BEV 3 AND 4

I see that you also mentioned the AP110's.... are you using the revision door on these?

 

I like the 110's but I think the keypad looks dated which is why I prefer the 120's instead as they have a more modern look once they have been refurbished. I picked up a AP122 yesterday for $100 (without payment system) which I was happy with but passed on a NAT147 as I prefer the NAT160's.... it was hard to pass up but if I would have brought both my wife would've kicked me back onto the couch again  ;D

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