jbmcculloch Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I just bought a used Rvcc-804 and I have zero knowledge of operating a soda machine. I have it all setup to the beSt of my knowledge. Several sodas in each column and change slots half full. I inserted change to try it out and it first acted like it tried to spit one out. I opened machine back up and it did indeed spin the roller looked like I may have had it in wrong position. With that being correct, I closed to try again and now it just says sold out and it says that on every selection now. Also it will not give change back until I hit button on board inside. Im looking for any help on getting this setup and learning more. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Well these Royals are a pain for somebody like you, who never programmed one. Find you a tech or a vendor that is willing to program it for you. Or look on utube for videos on how to program one. cajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 First off, here is a link to the manual: http://royalvendors.com/giii-vender/ Make sure your space to sales (STS) is properly set matching columns to selection buttons. Make sure your column dept setting (Sdep) is correct, 1 for bottles and 2 for cans. As for your change return situation, multivend is probably turned on which will be configuration menu, item 9 (Con9). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 This is the last machine I would ever recommend to a new vendor. You should have gotten a simple stacker machine that was single price to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I just bought a used Rvcc-804 and I have zero knowledge of operating a soda machine. I have it all setup to the beSt of my knowledge. Several sodas in each column and change slots half full. I inserted change to try it out and it first acted like it tried to spit one out. I opened machine back up and it did indeed spin the roller looked like I may have had it in wrong position. With that being correct, I closed to try again and now it just says sold out and it says that on every selection now. Also it will not give change back until I hit button on board inside. Im looking for any help on getting this setup and learning more. Thanks From my experience with Royals, which is fairly extensive, any time a GIII model (which is what you have) tells you that all selections are sold out, it means that the chain is out of alignment and is not caching the vend dogs that hang down when a selection has been made. This is a fairly easy fix as the chain rides on a sprocket located on the right side. If the sprocket gets loose (sometimes during a move) then it needs to be realigned by tightening the small Allen screw. You may want to remove the vend chute to make this easier to access but you should be able to see where the sprocket should be as there are usually two small lines on the axle caused dust dust and dirt. Once you get this baby up and running, you'll find it to be a very reliable machine but you should learn to program it. The password on a Coke vendor is usually 4231. Usually "1" is home, "2" scrolls up, "3" scrolls down and "4" is enter which must be hit each time you arrive at your destination - so to enter the password, you'l hit 4231 and then 4 to enter to access pricing, space to sales and column depth set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 This is the last machine I would ever recommend to a new vendor. You should have gotten a simple stacker machine that was single price to start with. Not the Vendo vue, 2nd gen Bevmax, or multi board Rowes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Not the Vendo vue, 2nd gen Bevmax, or multi board Rowes? Or them either, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 First off, here is a link to the manual: http://royalvendors.com/giii-vender/ Make sure your space to sales (STS) is properly set matching columns to selection buttons. Make sure your column dept setting (Sdep) is correct, 1 for bottles and 2 for cans. As for your change return situation, multivend is probably turned on which will be configuration menu, item 9 (Con9). The machine has several programming instructions on inside posted etc. I have set each column for cans, set selection and matched columns, I will check on the multivend on change problem. From my experience with Royals, which is fairly extensive, any time a GIII model (which is what you have) tells you that all selections are sold out, it means that the chain is out of alignment and is not caching the vend dogs that hang down when a selection has been made. This is a fairly easy fix as the chain rides on a sprocket located on the right side. If the sprocket gets loose (sometimes during a move) then it needs to be realigned by tightening the small Allen screw. You may want to remove the vend chute to make this easier to access but you should be able to see where the sprocket should be as there are usually two small lines on the axle caused dust dust and dirt. Once you get this baby up and running, you'll find it to be a very reliable machine but you should learn to program it. The password on a Coke vendor is usually 4231. Usually "1" is home, "2" scrolls up, "3" scrolls down and "4" is enter which must be hit each time you arrive at your destination - so to enter the password, you'l hit 4231 and then 4 to enter to access pricing, space to sales and column depth set. I believe I have done all the programming I need to for my setup etc. I figured alot of out by reading manuals and posters on machine. The final try out is what I posted on here. I will check the chain situation and report back This is the last machine I would ever recommend to a new vendor. You should have gotten a simple stacker machine that was single price to start with. Was going to purchase a Vendor 630 but this came up for sale locally half of what the refurbished Vendor was so I took a shot. Just have to teach myself on this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdsVending Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I cut my teeth on these machines and the learning curve was tough. You can always call Royal and they will help you with tech support. The trick with these machines is deep function 1 for bottles and 2 for cans. You will also need to change the pins on the bottom in closer for cans and 16.9 oz and more open for 20 oz bottles. After that you will have to adjust gauge shims for you particular beverage. It's only hard the first 20 times you do it then it's a piece of cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Especially if you give the wrong terminoligy for the parts you're describing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 I had a Coke guy come check it out to help me get it up and rolling. He said the changer was the issue on showing sold out and not refunding change. He got it going but says it isnt cooling and he checked it out and says cooling unit is shot. So looks like i just got took for all my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 How did he diagnose the bad cooling unit? If he plugged it directly into a power cord bypassing the machine then that's the way to do it. If the compressor only clicked on and back off without starting then it's bad. There are other symptoms of a bad compressor such as bad valves but you have to do some other testing while it runs in the machine to determine that. I've also had compressors with broken rotors that when turned off you could just hear the rotor spinning down to a stop instead of just stopping cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 I was gone when he was here diagnosing. My wife is relaying all the info but he tested compressor by doing something at what he called a junction box, so it sounds as if he powered directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Also how much is it to replace a cooling unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 $400 - $600 depending on the supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Ok. I wanted a 2nd opinion and there is a local guy who has been in appliance repair his whole life, so had him stop by. He changed the compressor capacitor and boom it's cooling like a champion. Now on to the next problem. He said to watch it and report back to make sure it's cooling. It is and digital readout is saying 26° F, so I then noticed there is a cord directly to the compressor. Does this soda machine suppose to have 2 cords? If not what do I need to do to set temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 The temperature gets set in the programming. Your cut-in temp should be 35-36f and the cut-out should be 40-42f. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The second cord you may be referring to plugs into the machine. Basically, the machine gets power from the wall, and the refrigeration gets power from the machine. You can plug the refrigeration directly into the wall but you're completely bypassing the machine. Also, adding a new starting component means you are buying time. It could be several months or several years depending on the compressor in addition to other issues. If it stops cooling again, have it repaired. Those royal decks last a long time if retired properly. Also, repairing decks on a vending machine is like getting new tires on a car. It costs a bit but it's bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Ok. I will look at it again but I never seen somewhere to plug the 2nd cord in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The refrigeration deck cannot run unless it is plugged into something. If the refrigeration deck will not operate at all, then you need to find the plug. I don't know exactly where that would be on that specific model but there should be a female plug somewhere in the lower left side of the cabinet. There's usually just enough slack to plug it into the lower left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 I don't know what you mean by the "second cord" because there is only one power cord coming from the cooling deck. The plug will connect to a rubber power junction box mounted to the inside left wall to the left of the compressor. It usually goes in the top of that junction. That is the only connection for the cooling deck. The refrigeration relay runs it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Yes the second cord I'm referring to is coming from cooling unit. Now that I know a location of junction box I'll go search for it. Thanks alot for all the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 So what would be the "first cord" you're referring to since you seem to have a "second cord?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbmcculloch Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Ok I just located the junction block. I'm assuming soda machine guy unplugged the compressor from it to test and never plugged it back in creating 2 male ends laying there confusing me. Anyhow I just plugged compressor back into the junction and stood there for good 5 minutes and compressor never kicked on so looks like I'm gonna have to diagnose the next problem now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It can take up to 20 minutes for the unit to come on depending on the functionality of your door switch. Close it up and give it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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