brendio Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Someone here is selling three machines in hospitals that I am considering buying one or all of. The closest machine and the one of the best site is an AP 121 C. I already have a couple of AP LCMs that have InOne upgrade boards. This machine looks like it has the original board and I couldn't see a DEX plug, so wondering is there a harness or would it also need a board upgrade? I would be looking to add Nayax telemetry and credit card reader if I acquire it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I just skimmed the manual for it and it appears that a DEX harness is available. Next question is does it play nice with Nayax (or other card readers)? Does anyone have experience with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Make sure the flash chip is 5.28. This is the smaller of 2 square chips just below the battery. You can get them from D&S Vending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Another question: can a drop sensor/Golden Eye be added without much difficulty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It can, but at great expense if one is still available. AP was quite proud of those kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Alright, an update on this thread and a question: I did end up buying this machine and am now trying to get it to work with Nayax telemetry. I fashioned a DEX harness for it by chopping the 6.5 mm plug end off an old Nayax harness and soldering it to a molex plug I found among my spare parts stash. I compared with another AP harness and got it working the AP Studio in my shed. I went to the machine on site today, and plugged the harness into the RS232 connector, connect the Nayax box to the MDB harness, fire it up and push the yellow button and it makes the right sounds for sending a DEX. I checked on my phone and only one product was showing in the inventory (I guessed a little at the parameters at home when I made the product map, so I figured that was it. I'm home now and have had a look at the raw DEX file, and it only shows three product selections (110, 170 and 151). The machine has been operating for some time, so there should be DEX data for all selections. I did notice though that there are lines PA1*CAB1 and PA1*CAB2. Is anyone good at diagnosing faults from raw DEX data? I wonder if it is set up for a slave unit or something? Or the data has been reset or not recording? 000 DXS*9252131001*VA*V1/1*1 001 ST*001*0001 002 ID1*API09876543210*LCB120*0473*API-1234567890 **1234567890 003 VA1*0*0*0*0 004 VA2**0**0 005 VA3*0*0*0*0 006 TA2***0*0*0*0 007 PA1*CAB1 008 PA2*0*0*0*0 009 PA1*CAB2 010 PA2*0*0*0*0 011 CA3*0*0*0*0*0*0*0*0 012 CA4*0*0*0*0 013 CA7*0*0 014 CA15*150 015 DA2*0*0*0*0 016 EA2*MIS RES**1 017 EA2*MACH RES**0 018 EA3*1 019 MA5*DISC*0*0 020 MA5*COMBO*0*0*0*0 021 MA5*WINNER*0*0*0*0 022 LS*0001 023 PA1*170*4256*002*0 024 PA2*0*0*0*0 025 PA5*000000*0000 026 PA1*110*600*008*0 027 PA2*0*0*0*0 028 PA5*000000*0000 029 PA1*151*1500*009*0 030 PA2*0*0*0*0 031 PA5*000000*0000 032 LE*0001 033 EA1*M DOOR 1*000000*0000*00 034 EA1*M DOOR 2*000000*0000*00 035 EA1*M DOOR 3*000000*0000*00 036 EA1*M DOOR 4*000000*0000*00 037 EA1*M DOOR 5*000000*0000*00 038 EA1*C1 DOOR 1*000000*0000*00 039 EA1*C1 DOOR 2*000000*0000*00 040 EA1*C1 DOOR 3*000000*0000*00 041 EA1*C1 DOOR 4*000000*0000*00 042 EA1*C1 DOOR 5*000000*0000*00 043 EA1*C2 DOOR 1*000000*0000*00 044 EA1*C2 DOOR 2*000000*0000*00 045 EA1*C2 DOOR 3*000000*0000*00 046 EA1*C2 DOOR 4*000000*0000*00 047 EA1*C2 DOOR 5*000000*0000*00 048 EA1*DEF 1*000000*0000 049 EA1*DEF 2*000000*0000 050 G85*66A8 051 SE*S004*0001 052 DXE*1*1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 22/10/2016 at 1:01 AM, lacanteen said: Make sure the flash chip is 5.28. This is the smaller of 2 square chips just below the battery. You can get them from D&S Vending I forgot to check the version while I was at the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, brendio said: 016 EA2*MIS RES**1 Pondering answering my own question, this line appears to indicate the MIS data has been reset, hence why all the values are zeros? Not sure why there are three selections though and not all or none (I have seen on other machines that DEX selections show up after a reset {for change of EPROM} only after a vend, but its not showing vends and there is no selection 170 for there to have been a vend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Go to the security menu press<enter> press right arrow until you see "set product codes-manual" press "plus' <+> it should now say "set product codes-auto" You will now get the right PA fields and you have earned the privilege of purchasing me a beer. Note 1: you will also see PA info of non-existent selections, but the data will always be zero. Note 2: with the age of this machine passing 10 years, the batteries are starting to fail and the boards lose data. You can purchase the batteries on line for $16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks, I'll try to head back tomorrow to try this (and let you know if you get your beer) . Regarding the battery, does the board lose all the prices when you take the battery out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 If you change the battery in a minute or 2 you won't lose prices. You will lose all sales data if the machine is turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendio Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 It took a couple of dex readings before it sorted itself, but it looks like it works. What's your preferred beverage? It took me a while to work out the product mapping between the selection numbers and the MDB until I worked out the the selection numbers were hexadecimal. Wrote an Excel formula to convert and its looking all good now. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I'm a cheap date. The next time you come to Lafayette Louisiana bring one of these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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