57thTom Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 If a company put up the $3,000 for a new Vendo Sanden 721 how much should the company expect to pay for service calls over the first three years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 That's kind of a broad question as it depends on a few factors, specifically the environment it is put in. A really dusty area is going to give a lot of service calls no matter what's in there. A place that takes a lot of abuse will get a lot of calls. You get the idea... Generally, a brand new soda machine should be pretty maintenance free.. so the cost should be practically nothing EXCEPT for preventative maintenance which includes things such as cleaning the condenser coils and dealing with typical bill and coin jams. Even on new machines, bill jams and coin jams still happen and parts can fail within 3 years from normal things. The higher volume the location, the more calls you should expect. Since typical repairs such as coin mechs and validators are such a common thing, I don't think they should really count toward your question. So, generally speaking, a new soda machine shouldn't really cost you anything. Having said that, a refubished 10-year-old DN 501e or a Royal 650 may also operate 3 years without much trouble. The greatest benefit to buying NEW soda machines is that they look attractive. Refurbished equipment works just about as good as new stuff if it has been taken care of, and people absolutely hate the newer DN "P" series. However, I love the Vendo 721 personally. So.. if you are looking for an overall cost-to-own a brand new vendo 721, I think you shouldn't tack on more than $200 in miscellaneous repairs that MIGHT come up over the first three years of ownership, but it's also possible that you might not spend more than $200 over the first 7 years of ownership until the refrigeration deck needs work. Machines can last a long time in a good environment. Very high-volume locations can wear some parts out faster but abusive/dirty environments will cost you more in the long run than anything else. For example, if you put a new Vendo 721 into a HOT and DIRTY factory with say.. 150 workers, I would expect you to go through a couple coin mechs and/or validators and maybe some minor repairs on other parts. A hypothetical account might cost you $1,000 over the first three years if it really gets abused, but such an account would justify the new machine and the profits (if the margins are good) would more than cover the repairs. Put that same machine in an office with 100 employees and you might rarely ever get a service call but your sales might also be less than 30% the sales of the factory. On a side note, I personally never want to (but may have to some day) put a bevmax in a dirty, abusive factory. I'd much rather install two or more stack vendors in such a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southeast Treats Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 What Chris said! Remember too that "normal" location wear and tear is going to happen no matter what machine you have, so it's like buying a new car vs a used car - if it's for a nice low mileage driver the new car is great; if a road warrior is going to drive the heck out of it in 2 years don't waste money on a brand new ride... same idea with new vs refurb machines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57thTom Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 The reason I asked is that I saw a retired repair man turn down an offer of $700 dollars a month to drive 90 miles to maintain two Vendo 511s , a Studio, a Studio 2 and an old change machine. The only other machines that he might have to look at are two retired AP 213s. I forgot the HY 900. I looked at new machine prices and figured that for that money they could have simply replaced a machine every 8 months and said,"call me if anything goes wrong." Followed by a couple years of pure profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 What do you mean... maintain?? Do you mean $700/month to be on-call for repairs??? For a few machines?!?!!? For $700/month, I would gladly drive 90 miles and "maintain" those machines. I'd stock them while I was there too. You got some very weird vending things going on around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57thTom Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 That's for sure. It's very hard to understand. Why would a company give away money? Drives me nuts. I'm used to working for companies that think about how much money they make from what I do. They are taking bids. Time for me to go write a proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57thTom Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's government money, if that gives you a hint. These machines aren't run to make a profit. It makes my brain hurt to think about it sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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