Kinch Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hello, I am putting a DN601E next to a heavily trafficked truck scale at a grain and corn storage facility. I am putting it outside on the north side of the scale house facing the scale. Unfortunately the north side is not paved, but is packed road mix. Is there anything handy I could or should use as a base for the machine? I have thought of a couple things. Possibly 4, 12" x 12" but 1 1/2" landscape pavers, one on each corner. Or possibly a sheet of hardi backer concrete board. This is what is used as a flooring underlayment for tile. Any other ideas from you experienced guys on here? Should I place a pad like that or can I just put it on the gravel? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just use some 4x4's if there's no risk of someone pushing it over. 4x6's would be more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinch Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Excellent idea thank you. So I have some 2 x 6's, is that not high enough? Do I need to go with the 4 x 6's? Thanks very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'd use 2x6s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2x6's will work. The important thing I'd to make them stable so nothing shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Make sure they are pressure treated. Wood can rot really quick on top of gravel.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walta Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think you would be crazy to install a soda machine on a wood or gravel base! What happens in a few years if the wood rots away and the machine falls over and crushes 7 year old little Johnnie. Do you think his parents will sue you? Would you be able to live with yourself? What happens in a few years if the rain washes away gravel and the machine falls over and crushes 7 year old little Johnnie. Do you think his parents will sue you? Would you be able to live with yourself? I say make a nice concrete pad 5 bags is less than $25.00 Walta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinch Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 No it's not like that. It's packed road mix and against a building. Very solid surface. It will be under constant observation by the managers of the scale. It's in an enclosed 100 acre facility that is filled with heavy equipment moving past 5 days a week all day. Besides If it's not rock solid I won't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Yeah that Johnnie is one clumsy unlucky little rascal.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 With packed gravel and heavy equipment that will be a lot of dust. You might want to think about an external filter for the compressor. Either that or clean the fins on every service. Pavers crack pretty easily if uneven. Maybe a 1/8 inch plate steel. If it is hard pack it should be pretty stable, you just want something to keep the feet from sinking in.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinch Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 I am worried about the dust. Initially I thought about one of those fiberglass pads that you sometimes see central air conditioning units at homes sitting on. We also have a lot of dust storms to go with the heavy equipment. I was wondering if I should put something say between the two boards, (or steel plates) to minimize the loose dust under the machine. Hardi backer? The cement under layment they use for tiles. Just a thought. I have a sheet of it on the ground in front of my lawn mower shed that has been walked and driven on for years. Seems like fairly tough stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinch Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 What would one use for an external filter? A piece of furnace filter attached to the outside of the machine somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 You don't need an air filter under the machine because there is no airflow there. If you have an air hose or water hose near the machine you can just blow or rinse out the condenser periodically. If those aren't available then you could put a piece of air filter material in front of the condenser but don't allow it to get too dirty or you'll kill your compressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Also, make sure you have a mars bill acceptor, as they are much better with dust than coinco. For coin mechs make sure it isn't the mars 4000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinch Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 It's for sure a Mars although not certain which model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 For a filter find a furnace filter size in Walmart or Home Depot that is a little bigger than the opening. Bend some sheet metal strip in an s shape or you can rivet two angle pieces together. Make sure it is deep enough to hold two filters stacked. You put the angle pieces in a u shape so you can slide the filters in from the top or side, whichever works better. When you change them you pull the outer most and throw it away, move the inner to the outer, and put the new one on the inner. I've never done this for a vending machine, but we made a ton of them for equipment in Iraq and Kuwait. You might be able to hold the pieces on with strip magnets. We just used pop rivets.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 You have to remember that there isn't much room between the front of the condenser and the backside of the outer door so two filters might be too tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poplady1 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 That validator is going to be a problem. We used a cut out plastic flap around the validator. The customer would lift up the flap, put in the bill and then the flap dropped down keeping most of the dust-out. We put a small weight on the flap to be sure it covered the area. We used them in lots of industrial accounts too, it keeps those darn things working between service. You will need to clean them each visit. If the machine is next to a building you can purchase those rails from Vendors Exchange that mounts on the wall and holds the machine steady. They are made so people can't shake or move the machine but should work here too. We used the standoff brackets at Vendors Exchange. Two of them should hold it right where you want it to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I like that plastic flap idea.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Why not use a plastic pallet that either Pepsi or Coke uses to deliver their product. Cokes are 40 inches square while the Pepsi ones are about 48 x 40 inches. Both are about 6 inches tall. Just be sure to attach the machine to the skid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgolembiewski0903 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 3:23 PM, orsd said: Also, make sure you have a mars bill acceptor, as they are much better with dust than coinco. For coin mechs make sure it isn't the mars 4000. Why is the Mars 4000 bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The 4000 has too many small, weak parts and MEI doesn't support it any longer. They can still be repaired but sometimes used parts have to be put on them. The weakest parts are the c/r lever, the bottom pieces of the coin tubes and the acceptor sorting gates. They work fine in indoor locations but outdoor locations will just wear them out from the dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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