wpeej Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I have a GIII RVCC-550 in a well lit area, and I’d like to turn off the lights to conserve energy. It has the option in the menu (Lit) to put them on a timer, but it must not have the relay installed because they won’t turn off. Short of snipping the wires powering the ballast, can I unplug them from somewhere? I can’t determine where the ballast gets power (after the EM filter?). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Why not just remove the bulbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 I could, but won’t the ballast continue to run? It would be easier to pull a plug (if possible) since I have to unbolt the mounts to get the bulbs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 You don’t need to unhook anything. Light sockets are spring loaded. Just lift and swing out bulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poplady1 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 We use to put in two lights but unscrew one til it was off. When the one on went out we pulled it and screwed in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poplady1 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 We did find that our sales went down when a machine was dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 What do you care about light power usage? Unless this is a Coke door that uses 64W bulbs there isn't much power consumption. If you want to use the timer circuit then you need a timer relay kit from Royal. Or just remove the bulbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 It uses 80 watt and 60 watt bulbs. I just removed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinthepark Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I purchased the relay kits from Royal and installed them in 3 of my GIII machines. They only cost 24.69 for the kit and it wasn't that hard to install. I like being able to turn off the lights at night when no one is in the building. Part number: 161111srv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 22 hours ago, darkinthepark said: I purchased the relay kits from Royal and installed them in 3 of my GIII machines. They only cost 24.69 for the kit and it wasn't that hard to install. I like being able to turn off the lights at night when no one is in the building. Part number: 161111srv Thanks for the tip! I might do that...I removed the bulbs but the ballast is still powered and generating heat...I assume the relay cuts power to the ballast? When you get a chance, would you mind posting a pic of the relay and where it connects to the main board? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Yes the relay will turn the ballast off but again, what is your concern about a powered ballast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 usually the Relay is in the lower left corner along with the compressor and fan Relay. Also the board is confusing as it works backwards of logic. Try reversing your times and make sure you have the feature showing a 1 which turns it on. However your thinking on disconnecting ballast is spot on as it will continue to broadcast a rf signal. If all else fails go to the ballast and either terminate the power or in unplug the Jones plug. If the others are talking about "FRED", it doesn't always work in all machines without an auxiliary Relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 hours ago, AZVendor said: Yes the relay will turn the ballast off but again, what is your concern about a powered ballast? Because it’s hot, and is right up against the inner door which transfers heat to the cabinet. I pay the power bill, so whatever I can do to minimize cost is a win for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hmmm. So that $2 per month matters that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 hours ago, wpeej said: Because it’s hot, and is right up against the inner door which transfers heat to the cabinet. I pay the power bill, so whatever I can do to minimize cost is a win for me. You are going to loose more in sales than you save in electricity. If you are that concerned get LED's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, orsd said: You are going to loose more in sales than you save in electricity. If you are that concerned get LED's. 34 minutes ago, AZVendor said: Hmmm. So that $2 per month matters that much? AZVendor...”I want my $2” -Better Off Dead orsd...it’s in my man-cave...and sometimes I like it dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Ok, makes sense. In that case the relay should work, or you could probably rig up a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 If you were to calculate the power factor of what the ballast uses compared to what the compressor uses you won't complain about the ballast being on. Just unplug the ballast and be done with it. It's in your house for god's sake, just plug it in when you want the light on or hide a switch to the 110v input so you can "wow" your friends when you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkinthepark Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Here's some pictures of where I mounted the relay in my GIII machines. I also put one in a Merlin iv, but that gets mounted differently and requires a different relay kit. They don't give you much wire with the G3 relay kit, so the most ideal place was next to the bill acceptor. To connect to the board, you push the wires into the two circled connectors that go to the control board. Finally, you send one connector into the door to Y into the connector that goes to the ballast. Then follow the directions for your machine to program the light timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeej Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Thanks for the pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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