Corvus Corax Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Can you MDB a Royal RVCDE 552-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Yes, sort-of, and no. I THOUGHT there was a harness available from a distributor a while back that allowed you to use MDB on a royal 2000 (your 552-8 should be a 2000 series) but I cannot find that harness anymore. I might be crazy though.. and if I am correct, it was for series 5.12 and higher and did not work with any older versions. Aside from that, a stock Royal merlin 2000 will not operate with MDB. Even if it did, you wouldn't get cash sales from a card reader or anything like that. So "no." However, you can buy a relatively cheap $150-$200 module that converts the signal to MDB allowing you to install an MDB mech and validator.. and a card reader too but you won't get cash sales reported and there's no dex unless you pay way more, like $250-$300 I think. Even then, what you have is a normal Royal 552-8 with some spliced wires, wire nuts, and a module that simply converts the signal. Everything else is stock. Finally, D&S has this board - http://www.dsvendinginc.com/p-9743-ds205-royal-merlin-32000-board-conversion-replacement-kit.aspx which is a true upgrade to allow for MDB components. I am assuming it comes with an MDB harness but I have never bought one so I don't know if you have to buy the harness separately or not. I also don't know if the standard logic components are compatible with the new board or if you MUST switch to MDB when you install that board, but you would be crazy to install this board and NOT switch to MDB anyway which is why I believe they would supply the MDB harness as well. That's the best bang for your buck. As the page notes, you must use a manual thermostat/cold-control for this board, but I don't think I have ever seen a Royal 2000 without a manual thermostat anyway. I also don't know, but I would assume that this board would allow for cash sales to be reported with a card reader in addition to the card sales, and I would also assume you can use the DEX on it but you need to confirm those things with them. For $289, I think it's the only true solution. Seeing as I really like my royal can machines, I can see the value in upgrading the boards and switching to MDB. The 552 has a lot of capacity!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks, I know suggest replacing the whole machine, but it works great. Also it would cost $200 to move it and would still have an old machine sitting around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 What version logic board do you have in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Corax Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Board is a version 5.11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The 552 is a great machine. I have scrapped dixies pre E series but no Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I’m really new to this industry so I apologize in advance if this is a dumb question. i recently just acquired a Royal Vendors 552. I was hoping to take the bill validator out and put in a card reader. It already has MDB by the looks of it so I am hoping it is possible. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) I don't recognize that circuit board. It's mounted to the outside of the main logic board box. In that case it does look to be MDB but it's aftermarket and you can only try a card reader and see if it works. If you have an MDB coin mech then that would confirm it. It might be a Greenwick board which is very iffy with card readers. Edited August 25, 2022 by AZVendor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, AZVendor said: I don't recognize that circuit board. It's mounted to the outside of the main logic board box. In that case it does look to be MDB but it's aftermarket and you can only try a card reader and see if it works. If you have an MDB coin mech then that would confirm it. It might be a Greenwick board which is very iffy with card readers. It does have an MDB coin mech. https://ibb.co/2gvJW9Khttps://ibb.co/kqXgTJVhttps://ibb.co/FVz5Rg6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Are you in Canada? That would explain why you don't have bill acceptors on some machines. What is the Lays logo on, just out of curiousity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Ya I am in Canada. Here are the Lays logo machines. I created another topic for them. https://freeimage.host/i/rPrGQn https://freeimage.host/i/rPrEhX Next time I am on the location I am going to try swapping in a Nayax reader to see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Same machine pics. Send one of the Lays machine. The snack you show is an AP7600, not 7500. It already has an upgrade board in it so a card reader will probably work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) The tag said 7500. How can you tell it’s a 7600? https://ibb.co/09SSWxZ Edited August 25, 2022 by MaxCoinVending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) I didn't notice the 5 shelves that make it a 7500. There weren't many sold with less than 6 shelves. The series is all the same, 6600, 6600XL, 7500, 7600. Edited August 25, 2022 by AZVendor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Ya. After you said it was a 7600 I started comparing them and they all look similar. One more question about the 552, where is the power switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Vending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) There isn’t a power switch but you can disconnect power to it by unplugging the harness all the way at the bottom left corner. Looks like a regular 2 prong electric plug like you would plug into an outlet. Edited August 25, 2022 by Gizmo Vending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 There is no power switch. You remove one of the skinny wires from the line filter on the lower left of the cabinet left of the condenser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) Thank you two! I noticed that plug. Next week when I go back I will try out the card reader instead of the bill validator and see if it works. If it works I might offer all 3 options and see how it goes. I think I would have to drill some holes but I think it would work. Edited August 25, 2022 by MaxCoinVending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Vending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Offer all 3 options. You already have cash and coins so leave those. For the card reader yes you will have to drill holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 One thing to keep in mind on the RV552 is that it doesn't do bottles in the narrow columns. The programming of the sensor doesn't work well with bottles in those columns even though you can set it to two packages deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gizmo Vending said: Offer all 3 options. You already have cash and coins so leave those. For the card reader yes you will have to drill holes. I was just reading now on how to found it. Next is to find drill bits. Haha I will test out the Nayax and coin mech together. If that works I will test out all 3. I will update with my results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, AZVendor said: One thing to keep in mind on the RV552 is that it doesn't do bottles in the narrow columns. The programming of the sensor doesn't work well with bottles in those columns even though you can set it to two packages deep. Thanks for the tip. Currently this machine is set up for cans only. All the cans are 355ml (12oz). Edit* I forgot this one has one column of bottles. I’ll take a look next visit. I might remove these and put cans there. Edited August 26, 2022 by MaxCoinVending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I had the Nayax installed but for some reason the card processing wasn’t going through so I removed it for now. if I can get it to process the card it does look like I can use the coin mech, bill, and Nayax all at once It’s also weird because the other Nayax on that location wasn’t working as well. It has previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Maybe you have poor reception there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxCoinVending Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 That’s what I was leaning towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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