duaned Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Just picked up a used machine for our community center. It was configured for 12oz cans, 3-deep. I purchased the gage clips to convert to 4-deep. It's configured as shown on the label inside the machine. cam setting: 4 backspacer: 19 gage bar loc: 1 gage bar clips: b1, b2, d0 Some columns will dispense 2 cans on the 2nd vend, none on the 3rd. Some do it intermittently. All columns are configured the same. Are there any other adjustmens I should be aware of? Thanks, Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Gauge bars might be bent. Swap with a column that works to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Do you have the grey sleeve clip in the third position back? I also concur that the gage bars could be bent. Four deep vending can also be problematic if your delivery chute has a vinyl liner on it that is warped. You also have to have the chute completely clean of any spilled soda or dirt so the cans will slide easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaned Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 The full manual and the label in the machine shows 3 gage clips. The two used for 3-can ('B' 1066104) and one all the way in the back ('D' 1122103). After posting I ran across another pdf showing another clip ('E' 1121704) in the #5 position which I don't have so I have ordered some of them. Hoping this will fix it. I noticed the issue with the delivery shute. I'm going to try to glue, or double-sided tape, the vinyl to the sheet metal. Maybe waxing the vinyl will also help. Is there something like teflon spray I can use to slicken it up? Trying to get this up and running quick as the compressor in our old single-price dixie-narco died. Vendors around here want $200 for a cooling deck. I picked this machine up for $300 and have put about $100 into parts for it. Still 1/3 the cost of what the machine usually goes for around here. Thanks for the help, Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Yes, that's the part causing the double vend though you still may need new gage bars if the problem persists. So you think $200 is too much for a compressor? That price would only cover a used unit. New will set you back $400-600. Are you too much of a cheap a## for $200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaned Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 $200 to fix an old single-price machine that only vends 12oz cans (plus a 4 hour drive to get the cooling deck), or $300 for a multi-price machine (less than an hour drive) that'll do both cans and bottles. It made more sense to me to go with the latter. No, I am not cheap. I'm not in the vending business and this isn't for me. It's for our community center for which I am a VOLUNTEER officer. We are a small community (500 homes) with a community center that has an ANNUAL budget of less than $5,000. So even $200 is a big expense. And before you suggest we have a vending company place a machine... They won't. We're too far out of the way and the sales aren't enough to make it profitable for them. Comments llike that, when you don't know the full story, make YOU look like the a##. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 This is what cracks me up when people out in the boondocks think there should be vending machines anywhere. Just because you see them in the movies doesn't mean it makes sense to have a machine in nowhereland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaned Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Sorry, but I'm not in the boondocks either. I happen to be in the Santa Cruz mountains, about 40 minutes from Silicon Valley where I work as a Unix Systems Engineer. I await your next asinine comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 If you're 40 minutes from civilization then you could have found a compressor to pick up in that same driving distance or someone to come replace yours. You just didn't look hard enough. Hell, just my drive across the valley here is 50 minutes for a service call that I don't charge a trip charge for. If you're going to ask "why pay for a service call if I can get a better machine for $300" then you have to know that $300 for a V540 is a steal so you can't win that argument, you were just lucky. Sooner or later that compressor will crap out. Then what will you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 AZ, I normally respect your opinions, but I agree with duaned. If I could snag a V540 for 300 bucks, I'd be a fool to dump 200 for a new deck on an old single price Dixie. Yes, he got lucky, but there is nothing wrong with that. There is no one size fits all answer. If I lived in, say Wyoming, and could not find any other machines, I would probably put a deck in it and call it a day. But if I could get a V540 for 300 bucks its a no brainer to replace the broken Dixie. Yes, the V540 deck will eventually fail, but that's pretty far down the road, as the Vendo is easily 10 years younger. And since the V540 is a better machine, it makes sense to replace the deck in it craps out in the future. Put it this way. If I had an old Chevy Astro van with a blown engine, there is no way in hell that I am spending the couple grand for another motor. But if I had, say a new Express van, and it blows the engine, I would put a new one in. Even though the newer motor probably costs 3x more, I'd be willing to do it. Does not wanting to spend a couple grand for the Astro motor make me cheap? No. It is simply not financially viable to dump a couple grand into something worth about that much. Plus, I respect the fact that instead of bitching that he can't get a vendor out to where he is, he solved the problem by doing it himself. Is it ideal? No. Will it be serviced optimally? No. But few things in life are perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaned Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 The closest vending parts supplier I could find is in Oakland. If there are others they must not be advertising much. I didn't call around to have someone come service it because that costs more and we have to stretch what little money we have as far as we can. I can change a cooling deck, I've done it before. I was considering making the drive anyway when this machine came up on craigslist. I'd been looking at machines online for several weeks so I do know how much they cost. That is why I jumped on this one, even if we have to spend a little more to fix it up. It was a matter of, was the old machine worth the cost to repair or would we be better off with a newer machine which procided more options. What will I do when the compressor craps out? That's really going to depend on how old the machine is at that time, what condition it is in otherwise and the cost/benefits of repairing it vs replacing it with something else. If it's worth the cost of a cooling deck to repair it I will purchase a refurbished one and install it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaned Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Regarding the vinyl on the delivery chute... Is there any reason why I shouldn't remove the vinyl and just coat the sheet metal chute with something like Krylon Rust Protector and Preventative Enamel? Other than being noisier I can't think of any downsides. Thanks, Duane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Vendo changed their design away from the liner chute to a coated chute because of the warping liners. You should get one if they still make them but realistically just make the columns 3 deep instead and then the waves in the liner won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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