tblake05 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Would these be helpfull? They're on auction about 2 hours from me. Pair of Organ One-Person Self Lifting Moving Dollies | June Consignment Auction - 2017 Kaufmann 50' Wedge Trailer, Original 8' Windmill w/ 30' Tower, Custom 1950's Ford Bar, Planet JR Seeders, Antiques, Collectibles, Fishing, Outboards, Military Antiques and Much More | K-BID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Those are what we call piano dollies but with the fulcrum for lifting so high up on the frame you wouldn't get the weight of a machine off the ground by hand. I used the wood ones that had a foot lever at ground level so all you did was step on the lever to lift the machine up. It wasn't really that simple though because once one side is up the other side is harder to get up due to the shift in center of gravity by the first lifted side. They work well, especially in tight doorways and elevators and you can even clamshell with them though someone needs to control the swinging door while doing so. You do have to run straps around the cabinet low and high or the dollies slide out from under the machine. Again, these won't work for vending machines. You can try to find some Anderson Dollies that were a bit of an improvement on what I used which was Roll 'n Carry. Edited June 18, 2022 by AZVendor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tblake05 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, AZVendor said: Those are what we call piano dollies but with the fulcrum for lifting so high up on the frame you wouldn't get the weight of a machine off the ground by hand. I used the wood ones that had a foot lever at ground level so all you did was step on the lever to lift the machine up. It wasn't really that simple though because once one side is up the other side is harder to get up due to the shift in center of gravity by the first lifted side. They work well, especially in tight doorways and elevators and you can even clamshell with them though someone needs to control the swinging door while doing so. You do have to run straps around the cabinet low and high or the dollies slide out from under the machine. Again, these won't work for vending machines. You can try to find some Anderson Dollies that were a bit of an improvement on what I used which was Roll 'n Carry. THANKS AGAIN AZ! Appreciate the help from wasting time and money to find out they won't work. I'll keep my eye open for more options and post them before I buy if you don't mind having a look. Not in dire need for moving dollies, as I got a guy, but it would be nice to move machines on my schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tblake05 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 6/18/2022 at 10:14 AM, AZVendor said: Those are what we call piano dollies but with the fulcrum for lifting so high up on the frame you wouldn't get the weight of a machine off the ground by hand. I used the wood ones that had a foot lever at ground level so all you did was step on the lever to lift the machine up. It wasn't really that simple though because once one side is up the other side is harder to get up due to the shift in center of gravity by the first lifted side. They work well, especially in tight doorways and elevators and you can even clamshell with them though someone needs to control the swinging door while doing so. You do have to run straps around the cabinet low and high or the dollies slide out from under the machine. Again, these won't work for vending machines. You can try to find some Anderson Dollies that were a bit of an improvement on what I used which was Roll 'n Carry. AZ, here's another set for sale on auction.... Would these be sufficient for moving machines. https://www.k-bid.com/auction/47611/item/53?offset=53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AZVendor Posted February 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2023 That is the model I used. They are called Roll 'N Carry. Remember that they are only for machines with no legs. Don't buy them unless you can see them first or can get clear photos of each of the vertical uprights because those can crack, making them useless. I also didn't use the straps they came with but rather I used sturdier straps that could be cinched down tight around the machines. You'll put the strap low on the dollies as that is what keeps them from sliding out from under the machine. These should be worth about $50 to $100 tops in well-used condition. They are about $400 new. There is a foot lever at the bottom, After you slide both dollies under opposite sides of the machine and run a strap around the machine then you step on the lift that's on the heaviest side of the machine and lift it up first. Then you lift the other side which will be much more difficult because of the change in the center of gravity by lifting the first side. Sometimes you can push up on the second side as you lift it though the machine might roll away on you. To clamshell a soda machine through a doorway you will open the door of the machine first and then strap the dollies through the gap between the door and cabinet. That way you leave the door free to clamshell the door. Keep in mind that in this case you will still lift the heaviest side of the machine (door side) but you will have the door closed as much as you can while doing it. Then the door can be swung 90-180 open to take some weight off the cabinet when you lift the other side. Be careful that the door weight doesn't tip the machine over. Be careful too, when clamshelling, that the machine doesn't tip and gouge a doorway. I used these sparingly, such as when I put a soda or Fastcorp machine into an elevator or had to clamshell a soda machine - which I hated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southeast Treats Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Ditto to AZ, I have a set like these, heavy golphers, and I use them with the longest ratchet straps I have. Only use them now when I need to clamshell usually. I have a Stevens dolly as well, but I have gotten to the point where my short and narrow pallet jack does 90% of my moves. If I could only have one tool, it would be the pallet jack. https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1366 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I had to move a machine after a remodel recently. I just threw my narrow pallet jack in the van and headed out later that day. I had to clamshell but someone helped me thankfully otherwise it may have not been possible. I don't mind moving machines around occasionally but count me out of installs/uninstalls!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 They're generally pretty easy with some muscle work. I will say though that I rarely go to the chiropractor now that I don't move machines. That was not good for my slight frame but I still enjoyed it mostly. However I also got paid for it. Some of the more difficult moving was when I simply put DN440s, DN600s, V475s and CB700s on 4x4s in the warehouse. There was a lot of straining and grunting to stand them back up. The easiest moves were snack machines on pallet jacks/flat dollies and the best balanced machine ever that would never tip over was the AP 320 that was perfectly balanced on a flat dolly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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