Paraflier Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 OK. Figured I would ask the experts. Cause the last time I tried to sell a route... Well it was bad. I was ignorant, and thought I could price it myself. Yeah.... Not so much. That's why I'm going back to school here at the VENDiscuss Forums. 2 different routes from 2 different sellers. First- there is 4 machines. No name of machines only pictures. Looks to be 3 snack and 1 soda Since I can't ID them, here's pics: They say $5,700 gross per year, with a net of around $4,800. The route is close with 2 machines in each stop. Asking price is $4,800. (One year of stated net) Second there is actually some information. 1 AP LCM3 snack and 1 USI 10-selection soda. Both in one location, established. States the business is open 7 days, with extended hours. Sales over the last 2 months have been 726. (roughly 4356 a year? ballpark?) $3,500.00 OBO. What do you think? SOmething to look at or toss aside. Thank you in advance for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technivend Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The machines in order of appearance Vendo 10 select Soda. Probably an OC1 AP LCM Snack USI HR23 Snack USI SM3a? with CB8 satellite soda So in actuality you are showing 5 machines. Be sure which machines you are getting in this deal. As far as pricing, I don't know anyone that grosses $5700.00 with a net of $4800.00. That's less then a 16% cost of goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission vending Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 USI SM3a? with CB8 satellite soda So in actuality you are showing 5 machines. Be sure which machines you are getting in this deal. As far as pricing, I don't know anyone that grosses $5700.00 with a net of $4800.00. That's less then a 16% cost of goods. That's a Snack Mart 3000 (3wide) using the what they called a 3A controller board. (old technology, stopped making them around 8 years ago I think) I have a couple of them, still on location, not bad units. The Satellite soda is actually CD (can drink) only machine. Very inefficient loading serpentine system that will puncture holes in cans if you load to fast ( I used to have two of them as well , replaced with DN ) Then the acid in the soda that has dripped corrodes and destroys the motors and contacts. If you have to work on the refrigeration system, the split design they used in these machines is a nightmare. If you do buy it let me know, I've got motors that you will need because you won't be able to get any from USI, they don't stock them anymore. I'll be happy to sell and ship to you. I agree with above there is NO WAY they can have that gross/ net ratio, well unless maybe they are selling wacky tabacky or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxer518 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Who knows maybe chips are 3.00$ and candy is 5.00$ hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technivend Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 My bad, you are right in the CD8 and not CB8. The snack is a SM3a 4000 (4 wide) though, not a 3 wide. There are just a couple of empty rows in the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraflier Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tech and Mission-- THANK you so much for the input, and ID'ing of these machines. The insight about the soda machine is going to be a valuable bargaining chip. Something to look for if I decide to check these out. Soda damage. The ratio DID seem to be pretty off to me, but I figured maybe that's how you all roll in the Snack/Soda world. What about the one w/o pics? The 1 AP LCM3 snack and 1 USI 10-selection soda. $3500.00 OBO. The ad says in 2 months sales have been 726. But I guess that doesn't matter unless i know how much they are spending on COG.... Sounds like it's time to have little chat. I'll let you know what they say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCVending Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I was looking at these two routes also - one of the things I was wondering is wether to be concerned about flooding in the Valley this year. The 4/5 machines in Kent are down on West Valley - that area is prone to flooding even before all the problems with the dam...... Would suck to buy some machines and then have them flood damaged within a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraflier Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 I was looking at these two routes also - one of the things I was wondering is wether to be concerned about flooding in the Valley this year. The 4/5 machines in Kent are down on West Valley - that area is prone to flooding even before all the problems with the dam...... Would suck to buy some machines and then have them flood damaged within a couple of months. Same thing I was thinking. I was reading the CL posts, and all that was said for the other route was N. Puyallup.... There are businesses on River Road, and the P. River is right there, and it sure flooded last year.... Of course with all the talk of The Dam...watch nothing actually happen. **UPDATE**-- Looks like the Puyallup machines route has been snagged. The email came back undeliverable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission vending Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The snack is a SM3a 4000 (4 wide) though, not a 3 wide. There are just a couple of empty rows in the machine. I guess is time to schedule my next eye doctor visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraflier Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/bfs/1422216764.html Does the machine in the picture look familiar?? It's the same one that was on the route in Kent, WA. The one advertised as "4 machines in two locations" all ready to go. Oops. Glad I didn't pony up any bucks for "2 vending machines is a business that is closing and the machines need a home." Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technivend Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 NICE SAVE!!!!!! Still overpriced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraflier Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 This ad got re posted on CL. So I thought what the heck. I emailed the seller and asked about the identical pic of the Vendco that is advertised in a separate posting about getting 86'd from a location. Also asked if they were sure about their Gross / Net ratio. And why is the ad for 4 machines when you have pictures of 5. I'll let you know when (if) I get a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paraflier Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hmmmmmmm....... Interesting.......... :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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