jasonvending Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hello all, I have a double headed bulk machine in a hair salon, another machine popped up to compete with my machine and I noticed both locks (2 for 2 heads) has been altered. Meaning the inner circle was rotated on both heads which does not allow me to insert the key. Did the competition do this to me? How can I fix it? Picture example of similar lock: http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/ef/0b/ead2_1.JPG All help is greatly appreciated. Warmest regards, Jason Oberc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer980 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 First I would ask the location if they noticed them messing with your machine if you are positive you did not do it. If you have been providing good service then they may not like that the new machine person has sabotaged yours. Then I think you may need to take one of your spare keys and file or grind off the small tab that sticks off the barrel. I think this will let you put your key in and turn it. Have you noticed this persons machines at other locations? Is this also a good money maker for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert_gold_hound Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Take one of your keys and shave the tab off this should allow you to open it. Hope that helps EDIT: OK SOME ONE GOT IT FIRST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonvending Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 Thank you, am new at this, how do I shave off the potruding tab. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert_gold_hound Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 You can use a file, dremal, hacksaw, or anything you can dream of. Just get it off and make sure it is somewhat smoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsurvz Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 If they were really off from the notch then I would say yes your competitor did it. I have heard some interesting stories of what competitors will do to machines. I won't post anything here just in case there are amy less than honest people looking for ideas but I have heard of some pretty cut throat stuff. COULD YOU EXPLAIN MORE CLEARLY THE PROCESS FOR THE KEYS............ STILL NOT EXACTLY CLEAR ON THIS. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert_gold_hound Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 If they were really off from the notch then I would say yes your competitor did it. I have heard some interesting stories of what competitors will do to machines. I won't post anything here just in case there are amy less than honest people looking for ideas but I have heard of some pretty cut throat stuff. COULD YOU EXPLAIN MORE CLEARLY THE PROCESS FOR THE KEYS............ STILL NOT EXACTLY CLEAR ON THIS. Thanks. The little knob at the bottom of the key. If you look at the link to the picture you will see. You need to file it off so that the key will slide in. You can simply grind/cut it off the key so that it will slide in without the notches lineing up. Someone earlyer suggested doing this for security reasons. I will try to find the post and edit this with a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsurvz Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 OH , I get it I was thinking something different........... I get it. I will go get my Dremmel tool out right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidsurvz Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 This is a good idea. I also took a center punch and made the key #'s that are on some of the lock cylinders I have at home to make the key # illegible I will do that for the locks I have on my route also. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonvending Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yup, problem solved thanks to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert_gold_hound Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 More then welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gum_father Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Most everyone files the knob off on the keys. Then to go ahead and post that info here, how do you know who is reading this, could be someone in your own backyard. Unless you have your own key code you'll never be fully protected. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Most everyone files the knob off on the keys. Then to go ahead and post that info here, how do you know who is reading this, could be someone in your own backyard. Unless you have your own key code you'll never be fully protected. John John, only experienced vendors would file the knob off, and experienced vendors should know better then play with other machines. But you are correct without your own keycode their is no real piece of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert_gold_hound Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Even with your own key code there is still no peace of mind. It would not take a person long to dup your key. I have had to do this on an accation. Its simpler then you think. I won't go into how becouse that is what makes key's worthwile (not everyone knowing how). In the class I took we only had 2 paragraphs on dupping keys. If that says anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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