Quickinvestment Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Anyone vending strictly gumballs, placing single heads at locations. I'm just curious how well gum is sell for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserri Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If you have the time, I've got the thread! Here is an 8 page thread from when I tried this... Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkvendingwizard Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I was asking myself the same question tonight then i read through steves old postings. Steve had huge route before and had the idea to take away doubles and just run singles. From his posts he not only lost account but his revenue went to dramatically. Jax Snacks i believe said it best " one size does not fit all" You want to run dual heads for the simple reason of offering more selections and the ability to change/adapt to the location For example, i have some hair salons i was going to be running single head PMM machines in. But, i have chosen to run a double in there instead one head being gumball and the other being PMM. Lets say next month when i go to service it there is 20 dollars in pmm and 2.00 in gumballs. This would tell me this particular location is prone to food products only and i should change the gum head out to a different candy product. By having the double there already i wont have to lug another machine around and into the store all i have to do is change out the head turn the key and move on. As a worst case senerio you could downgrade to a single head but IMO if a location warrants a downgrade it probably should be pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLM Vending Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 One size does not fit all. I have a friend who started off with U turns and hated the work involved and the extra cost. Then he downgraded to doubles. Now he has downgraded to singles. He is averaging 35 dollars or so a spot. 50 machines and making over $1500 in profit. He plans to get 300 machines, single head and make six figures. He does only gumballs and he does Peanut MM when they don't want gum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 One size does not fit all. I have a friend who started off with U turns and hated the work involved and the extra cost. Then he downgraded to doubles. Now he has downgraded to singles. He is averaging 35 dollars or so a spot. 50 machines and making over $1500 in profit. He plans to get 300 machines, single head and make six figures. He does only gumballs and he does Peanut MM when they don't want gum. Your friend is averaging $35 a head on 50 machines?...Per month?! That is unbelievable...literally. Most of us would think $20 per month average per single gumball or pmm machine over 50 heads would be impossible....national average is below $10 last I heard. Regardless, he would have to be the luckiest man in the world to get up to 300 heads and keep his average anywhere near $30 per head. Over triple the national average on a route of 50 machines....hmmm. I'm not running the BS flag up the pole, but let's just say, I'm reluctant to believe those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLM Vending Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Your friend is averaging $35 a head on 50 machines?...Per month?! That is unbelievable...literally. Most of us would think $20 per month average per single gumball or pmm machine over 50 heads would be impossible....national average is below $10 last I heard. Regardless, he would have to be the luckiest man in the world to get up to 300 heads and keep his average anywhere near $30 per head. Over triple the national average on a route of 50 machines....hmmm. I'm not running the BS flag up the pole, but let's just say, I'm reluctant to believe those numbers. It all has to do with his locator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPHudson Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Your friend is averaging $35 a head on 50 machines?...Per month?! That is unbelievable...literally. Most of us would think $20 per month average per single gumball or pmm machine over 50 heads would be impossible....national average is below $10 last I heard. Regardless, he would have to be the luckiest man in the world to get up to 300 heads and keep his average anywhere near $30 per head. Over triple the national average on a route of 50 machines....hmmm. I'm not running the BS flag up the pole, but let's just say, I'm reluctant to believe those numbers. I have to agree with this....I have some good locations, but having 50 locations ALL doing $35 per month? Where does your friend live Beverly Hills? That said, I have 2 triples and 13 singles out.....my focus is strictly on singles....IF the machines does extremely well, I will then consider going to a double....I'm DONE with triples.....Both my triples will sell the crap out of Gum and PMM and the 3rd, whatever it is, always bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dperry Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Anyone vending strictly gumballs, placing single heads at locations.I'm just curious how well gum is sell for you guys. When I started out, I did only single charity gumballs. I did that for about 2 or 3 years. It was nice and simple. I had about 30 locations by then. I averaged about $13 a location. Only buying gumballs was nice. It's pretty much the easiest way to do this business. You only need to but one product. I do toys now, and I have to buy multiple kinds of product. That makes much more difficult. But now I average much more than $13 a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 There are many vendors that have successfully implemented the single head gumball model. They have a virtual army of at least 1000+ locations. There are pros and cons to every business model. That model is not my cup of tea. But, of course every business owner needs to decide what model works best for them. I know one vendor that had 400 locations of a mix triples and singles. Years ago, he converted to 100% singles with mostly gumballs and superballs as a backup. Seemed happy with his decision. Not sure what his location count is now - probably 700 or 800 spots. I have heard of vendors with 2,000 gumball machines. One locator told me a story about a guy that had 7,000 gumball machines!! So yea, it can be achieved. But a massive volume of locations is needed to make it work. And 50, 100 or 200 locations ain't gonna cut it with that model (for full time income). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulkvendingwizard Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Depends on what model you are working with and the type of locations. Really this business is all about trial and error. Just because someone has one mexican rest. with a double that makes 65.00 a month doesnt mean that if another vendor gets a mexican restaurant that hes going to make that much there. Depends on the business's amount of foot traffic plain and simple. It also depends on your machines. If your machines are used and beat up then you are less likely to get sales where as if you have a clean presentable machine you will def. make more. Strickly gumballs depends on the location.... Don't get me wrong it can be done but you will be spreading your radius of locations out alot further than if you had doubles working with other types of candies. The money is in gumballs and toys because of the COGS's but take into account if you are going to saturate a town with 20,000 people and only 14 restaurant and of the 14 you only get permission to place in 4 of these that you will want other types of locations surrounding the 14 in order to balance things out. If you put a single head with gumballs in unkle toms towing business you might sell quite a bit... or if you put a double in with a candy product you will maximize the location and make more overall as long as the location is eating up the PMM. In my own opinon, i think you cant go wrong with running doubles, One way to look at is if a location isn't found of one of the products you can tweak it with putting in a different head. I think that another benefit to doubles is even though the location isn't eating gumballs but they are PMM you have a free place to store the gumball's with potential to make money on them.... just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLM Vending Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Single Peanut MMs. Depends on your region i guess. I have to agree with this....I have some good locations, but having 50 locations ALL doing $35 per month? Where does your friend live Beverly Hills? That said, I have 2 triples and 13 singles out.....my focus is strictly on singles....IF the machines does extremely well, I will then consider going to a double....I'm DONE with triples.....Both my triples will sell the crap out of Gum and PMM and the 3rd, whatever it is, always bombs Yes around that area actually. You are right. 2 will usually sell, 1 will bomb. Do singles and up to a double if you wish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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