alyssamma Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Also, this is not an internet based service like you said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Also, this is not an internet based service like you said above. it does follow under intangible goods... anyway... Atlantic Vending Group is surely hiding, even his domain is hidden from who he really is... Registrant: Contactprivacy.com 96 Mowat Ave Toronto, ON M6K 3M1 CA Domain name: ATLANTICVENDINGGROUP.COM email: atlanticvendinggroup.com@contactprivacy.com Administrative Contact: contactprivacy.com, 96 Mowat Ave Toronto, ON M6K 3M1 CA +1.4165385457 Technical Contact: contactprivacy.com, 96 Mowat Ave Toronto, ON M6K 3M1 CA +1.4165385457 Registration Service Provider: Homestead Technologies, Inc, 800-797-2958 650-364-7329 (fax) http://www.homestead.com hostmaster@homesteadsupport.com Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 05-Jun-2009. Record expires on 30-Mar-2010. Record created on 30-Mar-2009. I suggest that people have done business with this guy to contact his domain register and let them know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssamma Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Agreed...and intangible goods *are* covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Agreed...and intangible goods *are* covered paypal considers intangible goods that you can not touch...they are not covered..since he said he did not receive anything, I am not sure how paypal will handle...they could give him a refund for not receiving anything, or they could refuse a refund as it is intangible goods. paypal states they cover any goods that can be shipped as they can be tracked. This is something that I am not going to worry about, if I file a dispute, I will expect too lose, if I win then great. paypal only covers the physical shipment of goods, if it is anything else, you have a high chance of not winning the dispute, if it was placed on a regular credit card, then you could dispute that...but how do you know you will not come back to a cancelled paypal account for doing this?? and it is wrong to tell the buyer they have to pay to send back the damaged goods... I did not damage it, UPS did...UPS should take reponsibility of picking it back up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssamma Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 dsimms, You keep stating this about PayPal. However, you don't show where they say this. I've read their TOS 2x and don't see it. I called them and they told me it *would* be covered. The example I used was paying someone to mow my lawn - definitely intangible. I was told I would receive a refund if the person didn't mow my lawn. Either point out in the TOS where it isn't covered, or stop saying that it isn't. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssamma Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 paypal considers intangible goods that you can not touch So does everyone else This is the definition of intangible. Look, I'm trying to be on your side. I'm trying to help you. But simply stating something doesn't mean it is true. And it is harmful to tell people this as it is simply *not* true. Do this. Call PayPal and ask if they'll let you file the dispute. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 So does everyone else This is the definition of intangible. Look, I'm trying to be on your side. I'm trying to help you. But simply stating something doesn't mean it is true. And it is harmful to tell people this as it is simply *not* true. Do this. Call PayPal and ask if they'll let you file the dispute. Kevin ok. have the other guy to file a dispute and see what happens. he will either win, or he wont... I am not going to do it yet, because I am still getting excuses on we are still working on it...he called me childish today..but hey whos judging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYTOWINBOB Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 hy guys i will call pay pal very soon and give you a answer,i do have 45 days from the day i paid this clown. i just don't want anyone else too loose money.$75 won't hirt me its just the point of it.he told me on the phone he don't care what happens on this site. he said most of his business comes from new machine sales companys that sell him to new people getting into vending. i would like to know how many people he screwed. bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Many locators use scare tactics to keep a vendor from publishing his bad experiences. Their bark is worse than their bite and they hope you will just "fall in line". Some may even threaten to file a law suite. By the way, the BBB is pretty useless and really can't help you since they are not a law enforcement agency. Good luck and keep us posted. In the end the truth must prevail! Jax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Many locators use scare tactics to keep a vendor from publishing his bad experiences. Their bark is worse than their bite and they hope you will just "fall in line". Some may even threaten to file a law suite. By the way, the BBB is pretty useless and really can't help you since they are not a law enforcement agency. Good luck and keep us posted. In the end the truth must prevail! Jax some creditors do the same thing..they play dirty...they do not scare me either... "if you do not pay, we will put your parents in jail" I told them, ok, let me to load them in the car and take them to the police station...he hung up on me.. what did I say wrong? I offered to take them down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 If you have a complaint with: Atlantic Vending Group http://www.atlanticvendinggroup.com then contact his domain register: Compliance@homesteadsupport.com Be sure you place his url in the subject followed by complaint... The worse that will happen, he will loose his domain service, and run to another hosting provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Was contacted by Atlantic Vending group yesterday about the last location that they owed me...drove 30min to location to find out that no one had contacted them, and did not want a machine. I also got this from Atlantic Vending Group today: Atlantic: One of our agents noticed that you have been blogging bad things about our company... we cannot help that your area is saturated !!!! we are doing our best to give you locations... MyReply: that funny, another locator, eddie seems to be doing a great job on finding locations, while you send me old and outdated information.... Atlantic: Vendor think that locators do not have rights ... we have always contacted you and keep you updated. Myreply: You have only kept me updated with out of date locations, nothing helpful... Atlantic: If you keep blogging untrue comments about our company we will file suit against you for lost proceeds that we were lost due to you blogging on forums Myreply: They would have to be untrue. I guess some cant not accept they are failures... DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH: ATLANTIC VENDING GROUP http://www.atlanticvendinggroup.com unless you want to get burned: file away!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssamma Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 hehe...lost proceeds. Classic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 hehe...lost proceeds. Classic! If the locator did his job right, he would be praised, and not damned... they make their bad choices how they see fit. he runs his business how he sees fit, if he does not want to be moral, then he should expect negative comments... of course he could file suit ... I doubt that will happen, that will take much more money - in the end, more truth will come out. I like how people sling those words around...I am going to sue you...most atty's probably laugh at this stuff as they see little to no money in it for them, and atty's sue for real money...I am sure they do not defend wannabe locators.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyssamma Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah, there is no way he will sue. That is why it is so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah, there is no way he will sue. That is why it is so funny. This is one of those locators that takes advantage of first timers...when they realize they are getting old and outdated junk, then they move on, and the locator continues to look for newbies, and the cycle continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Another reply from Atlantic Vending Group: Honestly... we do not care, our customers come from a company that sells machines so we have endless business. Blogs are for people who like to hide behing computers !!! and gossip !!!! powerful...an endless business of ripping newbies off... He is not smart enough to know, this is on a forum, and not a blog... now he is hyping his business more then what it really is... CAN YOU SAY INSECURE... Atlantic Vending Group likes to hide behind their 800 number... They do not give out any address information.... They hide their domain information from public view... Who's hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman007 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 At his prices I may consider hiring him. Just kidding! Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAYTOWINBOB Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 hello the price is what got me,see what happens..bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsimms Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 hello the price is what got me,see what happens..bobby His excuse is: Your area is saturated. It must not be since eddie keeps finding locations...its not like i live in a tiny area either, so it must not be that saturated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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