dogcow Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 any idea whats going on here, crane grabs the balls fine, moves the claw to the delivery door but wont release the ball. when more money is inserted it still wont release. ball must be manually removed from the claw. I am using the 5" ball. this only happens with knobby balls, plush works fine, other toys work fine. any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 i am guessing that you are using a small claw. i have the same issue with many cranes knobby balls are naturally a little sticky (like sticking your tounge to a metal pole christmas story) you can Order a larger claw. $100.00 +/- with coil. I have had luck bending the claw arms bigger and ajdusting the claw wider so it does not close all the way you want the claw to close for plush and toys like this -> () for knobbys you want ( ) this size adjustment is not related to claw strength on the motherboard its a on the claw adjustment. most claws have allen wrench movable collars around the coil or claw arms the more up/down you move it the more/less they will close I had luck with one crane adding a small spring between the coil and pushplate so it had a litle help opening the spring cant be very strong or the claw will not close and very small weak spring. if you need i can upload a picture of the adjustments on the claw when i get back from work today ALSO!!!! if you live in colder climates... like i do and have a air compressor in your garage in the cold and you run a large hose line into the house to inflate balls in comfort and heat... dont pull a bill... i inflated 2 cases 500 balls and left them in my kitchen at 4am they reached room temprature and expanded from the cold air getting warm. and started to EXPLODE i had a seroius firework show going. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treadmill Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 ALSO!!!! if you live in colder climates... like i do and have a air compressor in your garage in the cold and you run a large hose line into the house to inflate balls in comfort and heat... dont pull a bill... i inflated 2 cases 500 balls and left them in my kitchen at 4am they reached room temprature and expanded from the cold air getting warm. and started to EXPLODE i had a seroius firework show going. bill That is sooooooo funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 i am guessing that you are using a small claw. i have the same issue with many cranes knobby balls are naturally a little sticky (like sticking your tounge to a metal pole christmas story) you can Order a larger claw. $100.00 +/- with coil. I have had luck bending the claw arms bigger and ajdusting the claw wider so it does not close all the way you want the claw to close for plush and toys like this -> () for knobbys you want ( ) this size adjustment is not related to claw strength on the motherboard its a on the claw adjustment. most claws have allen wrench movable collars around the coil or claw arms the more up/down you move it the more/less they will close I had luck with one crane adding a small spring between the coil and pushplate so it had a litle help opening the spring cant be very strong or the claw will not close and very small weak spring. if you need i can upload a picture of the adjustments on the claw when i get back from work today ALSO!!!! if you live in colder climates... like i do and have a air compressor in your garage in the cold and you run a large hose line into the house to inflate balls in comfort and heat... dont pull a bill... i inflated 2 cases 500 balls and left them in my kitchen at 4am they reached room temprature and expanded from the cold air getting warm. and started to EXPLODE i had a seroius firework show going. bill picture would be great, that is very funny but i am in florida,so its not a big concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The first is a united textiles crane claw let me know if it matches the one your using there is really no easy adjustments the only way to size this claw is to bend ) each leg outward where they curve do one at a time and go easy so you dont snap one off. its not that hard and they do flex alot. that will widen the gap and allow knobbys to fall out easyer in the center where the rod enters the coil is a small triangle plate you turn that to adjust open claw size. the spring method would be hard to do on this crane the claw does not come apart easy the second claw in the picture is a standard import crane claw it has a upper and lower chrome ring (like bands on a barrel) with hex screws to hold it in place moving both collars up/down adjusts how much the claw will close up will mean more ( ) down for smaller items () you can clearly see the triangle plate piece in that picture turning that adjusts open size and just make sure the claw can fully open also you can bend the claws wider the same method as above too but try to adjust the claw rings first bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 thx i am a little nervous messing with the claw on the treasure chest crane because i dont know where to get a back up if it breaks, ill give it a shot though. wish there was an easier way! yes those are the correct claws i have on my cranes btw again, thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 treasure chest is made by united textiles http://www.unitedtextile.net/UnitedTextileCranes.asp they are in new jersey nice people they are more route operators on the boardwalk and NJ area they make cranes and service them and sell parts ive been to thier warehouse / factory to pick up cranes before bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Well damn thing broke when I turned it on...claw dropped wouldn't reel back in. This happened when I got it new power suplly fixed it but now idk what it could be ill try the import one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billnuts Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 heres 99% of the problems with united textiles cranes united textiles cranes use jamma type plugs for the motherboard so they need cleaned once in a while to relate to real world they are like old nintendo cartrages you have to clean the contacts, blow on the cartrige to get them to work clean the contacts i use rubbing alc, and q tips, or use contact cleaner in a can and spray both male and female sides. let them dry a day before trying or replugging it back in another easy contact cleaner is non-girly hand sanitiser on the contacts non girly means no lavender no aloe no smells or added stuff let it air out adn replug back in ends 90% united textiles problems and works on arcade games too unless it's a broken microswitch thier switches are not the best design theres a wooden block on each end of the track when they power up they go right- hit microswitch go left hit microswitch then the claw motor goes forward hits forward microswitch and gets ready for play 4 switches for left right back front two or three for claw down claw up.. check them for broken or not getting contact enough they used rubber blocks that hit the switches and sometimes the rubber wears thin. bill bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm heading back to Birmingham with a load of treasure chest cranes. I will make sure I pick up some spray contact cleaner thanks for the info. They have a built in volt meter any tips on setting. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 bill, well i went back with my friend to figure out the issue with the claw, we booted the machine and it reeled back in...makes me nervous to put it on location but im thinking maybe the motherboard connector is the issue. that said i adjusted the claw like you described and it worked perfect! it looks like ill have to make sure the balls are blown up the exact same size because i had them differently sized and some still caused a problem. Again, thanks a lot for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The joys of knobby balls...I am dealing with this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 The joys of knobby balls...I am dealing with this now. I read recently (think it was west coast) said that if the claw is chrome they will stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 My issue is they were getting stuck between the tip of the claw and where the top of the claw is attached to the coil. I fixed it by deflating them a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 you have to find just the right size what i did was i bought a cobalt tire inflator from lowe's it has a digital PSI readout on it and automatically stops inflating once you hit the target PSI. this ensures the balls are all inflated to a uniform size. Also you can bend the claws, this helps quite a bit, but be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I was thinking about heating the claws up a little with a torch and then bending them about an 1/8th inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 you dont need to heat it up you can bend it by hand just go real easy, also harbor freight sells a tool that makes it easy i cant think of the name offhand its for bending tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 We put the soft side of velcro on the tips. You can also get plastic slide on sleaves for the claw. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 We put the soft side of velcro on the tips. You can also get plastic slide on sleaves for the claw. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk where do you get the sleeves from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I would imagine heat shrink tubing would work great.. My problem of the claw not dropping the knobby balls was they were getting stuck in between the claw tip and where the claw attaches to the coil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 is the mechanically adjusted to the most open position ( see bill's post above ). it looks like its adjustable, if so makes sure you unscrew the rings and move it all the way to the top so its the most open(loose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 you have to find just the right size what i did was i bought a cobalt tire inflator from lowe's it has a digital PSI readout on it and automatically stops inflating once you hit the target PSI. this ensures the balls are all inflated to a uniform size. what psi did you end up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogcow Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 what psi did you end up with? depends on the crane , for import cranes 31" i use 6psi, for united cranes i forget the exact psi, i have it written down on the inflator in my storage, next time im over there ill check it, i think it is a little smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Just curious, are the knobby balls from Rhode Island all the same sizes or do you get some haywire sizes randomly? I noticed last night that some of them are at the "5 inch" size yet they are still under-inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I would imagine heat shrink tubing would work great..My problem of the claw not dropping the knobby balls was they were getting stuck in between the claw tip and where the claw attaches to the coil. I got the tips from radio shack. They block the static. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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