TKK Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 ive heard electricity for a coke machine is $7-$12 a month, and a snack like $4. now ofcourse it will vary by location. I am working on an apartment complex that is pretty big, got it today locating. The manager liked the idea, and said coke had a coke machine there but pulled it off like 2 years ago. she said if i can offer them a comission i said 10% of net. she said that sounds good. the location has 2 pool areas, one by the office, and one towards the end of the complex with a laundry room. do you guys think i should try 2 snack and 2 coke machines? or just 1 and 1 near the front? anyways called her today said the owner said thats fine but he was concerned that the electricity going up with these machines, if it would compensate the comission. i explained that it varies alot, as if it only makes $100 a month theyd get $10 , $300 $30 etc. she said she wants to see something showing what they spend in electricity. i told her i could show her the output X the local energy rate and that would show her what the electricty goes up. these are like smaller single price and a larger multi price vendo, and a snack machine probably an older AP 5000/7600 i wanna buy. what do u guys think? where can i see what the machines use? im sure i could just put a smaller machine in the info i send her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff84 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Pick 1 of these up at Home Depot and plug it in and show them how much it uses in a day then multiply that by 30. http://m.homedepot.com/p/Kill-A-Watt-Electricity-Monitor-P4400/202196386/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm afraid that won't work as they want to know before I set up. They just want something like say saying how many watts it uses and the local rate of electricity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff84 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm afraid that won't work as they want to know before I set up. They just want something like say saying how many watts it uses and the local rate of electricity Then buy 1 and place it another machine u have elsewhere for 1 day. The local rate of electricity is going to vary a bit depending on who deliver ur electric. Look at your electric bill and It should say. Like mine is around .049 per kilowatt hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 ok mine says customer charge $5 winter energy charge .07745 fuel charge .02253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff84 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 ok mine sayscustomer charge $5 winter energy charge .07745 fuel charge .02253 So take .077 x how much kilo watts a soda or snack machine uses in an hour times 24. I would assume its no more than 3-4 dollars a day at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 haha i would be happy if some of my coke machines made $4 a day! lol it looks like a smaller pepsi machine uses about 332 watts. http://www.gcbl.org/live/home/efficiency/understanding-how-much-energy-we-use thats about $217 a year. or $18 a month. or about .60 a day. and a snack machine $18 a year lol or .5c a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Then buy 1 and place it another machine u have elsewhere for 1 day. The local rate of electricity is going to vary a bit depending on who deliver ur electric. Look at your electric bill and It should say. Like mine is around .049 per kilowatt hour. Ruff, At 50 cents a Kwh, you should really consider going solar - that's outrageous. Around here, the rates run from 12 cents to 25 cents per kwh. Oddly enough, the fluorescent lamps in a vending machine are the big energy hog because they run 24/7. For a soda machine, figure about $10 per month - which is why I unplug the ballast on mine or convert the lighting to LED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruff84 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 .049 kwh so roughly a nickel per hour. That's on my house electric + the delivery an other bs the electric company charges. I mean not including delivery and other bs charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 .049 kwh so roughly a nickel per hour. That's on my house electric + the delivery an other bs the electric company charges. I mean not including delivery and other bs charges Ruff, I spent 15 years in the energy analysis biz/conservation biz. Your rates are insanely high. On the bright side, you will find that any efficiency efforts you make will, conversely, have an excellent ROI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treadmill Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ruff, I spent 15 years in the energy analysis biz/conservation biz. Your rates are insanely high. On the bright side, you will find that any efficiency efforts you make will, conversely, have an excellent ROI Moondog you have to remember he lives in Illinois the tax vaccuum state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 .049 is not .50 cents guys that's 5 cents Mine is higher at .0775 so about 8c a killowat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 .049 is not .50 cents guys that's 5 cents Mine is higher at .0775 so about 8c a killowat In the words of Rosanna, Anna, Danna "Never Mind" 5 cents plus incidentals is really pretty cheap. Soda machines are usually listed at 8 amps ( x 120v = 960 watts ) The thing to remember is that they don't actually draw 8 amps - like all electrical devices, there's a safety "slop" factor built in. When the compressor turns on, you're probably looking at 6 amps (720 watts) max. which leads to the question; how much does the compressor really run? The only real way to know how much energy is being consumed is to use a monitoring device like the one Ruff mentioned. Run it for a week on some of your existing equipment and you should get a pretty good idea of your energy costs. When I was doing energy analysis, we'd run our tests for a month on various types of equipment to "establish a base line". I probably had about 5k invested in this equipment, but then my company was doing 6 and 7 figure projects (office buildings and hospitals). That $20 unit Ruff suggested seems like a pretty good deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Lol moondog no one saw that ok just because you missed a decimal doesn't mean your info isn't credible lol I'm gonna buy that and plug it into one of my machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technivend Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Here are some USI energy consumption figures. Just to give you an idea of what new equipment draws. USI Snack Floro - 1.01 kwh/day USI Snack LED - 062 kwh/day Summit 500 Floro - 8.97 kwh/day @ 90F/60%RH - 6.8 kwh/day @ 75F/65%RH So as you can see the soda is going to be a variable. But you can do the math to get a rough idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 well i secured the location, now time to see if i should just place 1 snack and one coke machine or 2 and 2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 well i secured the location, now time to see if i should just place 1 snack and one coke machine or 2 and 2.. Sounds like you're not going to have much time for Cancun anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donut Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Oddly enough, the fluorescent lamps in a vending machine are the big energy hog because they run 24/7. For a soda machine, figure about $10 per month - which is why I unplug the ballast on mine or convert the lighting to LED. I do the same thing in most locations.... I also have 1 machine that I spliced a timer and set it to come on at 6pm then go off at 2am (it's an outside machine on main street)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiana Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Of course, it depends on the lighting surrounding your machine, but one of my locations specifically asked for the bulb in the snack machine not be replaced to help conserve energy. Saves me the cost of replacing the bulb, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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