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On 11/22/2017 at 5:14 PM, musser said:

Just thinking back on a couple of things that happened over the years during ride-alongs. I hopped in with a driver on an over night one morning, He acted awful nervous, We got to the end of the block and around the corner his girl friend was waiting with a suit case We went by, I said hey that's your girl friend. He said yea. Went a little  further and he said, she doesn't have a way home he has the car keys. I told him, well we better go back to the shop so you can get the keys to her, He said okay. When we got back to the shop I asked for his keys, cards, Id and told him he was done. I had another route up in Northern Iowa that I always booked rooms at a Casino in the winter (off season) great rooms at $49 a night. I was training a woman and she was doing really well, fast, thorough, good with customers. Anyway we stopped for the night had supper ( really good and inexpensive buffet) I told her I was going to go over to the casino for a bit. I said hey youre off the clock, see you in the morning. She said, maybe Ill go to and put a couple of quarters in the slots. No big deal. Well after about fifteen minutes she came up to me, put her arm around me and sad " some guy was hitting on me, I told him you were my boy friend" etc etc. I told her well that was probably a bad idea and I should just head upstairs (alone). We got rid of her by the end of the week.

Which reminds me, one way to catch someone taking people along. Even if they pay for the extra person out of pocket, the receipt from the restaurant usually has the number in the party on it.

I'm so curious, why let the guy go that was bringing his girlfriend? Wasn't she just going to go along for the ride? Or what's the issue if she had joined him. 

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1) distraction, 2) someone I don't know and my money, 3) insurance, 4) trying to hide the fact, 5) that's not why he was hired, ^ not asking if it would be okay first, 7) not being smart enough to understand these things

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On 11/26/2017 at 2:03 AM, Cat6 said:

Hi nepavend,

Sounds good and pretty busy. So was it your dad that started the business? 

I started the business myself in 2006. My father started helping out in 2014. It definitely is pretty busy. 

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On 11/22/2017 at 10:56 AM, AMD Snacks said:

Yeah but that's why I originally asked, because I always figured full line isn't as much a numbers game. I figure 200 full line accounts is the same as 1000 bulk vending. I could be wrong. There's a guy selling a route (could be bogus) for 160k says he takes home 80k a year and he only works 2 days a week doing full line. Now like I said he could be lying, but that's the picture I always get. And I figure if you're running around servicing a bulk machine everyday, you could be doing a soda machine everyday. The whole reason I do bulk vending is that it's not often for me. Twice a month or three times and I can cover my whole route. 

But VendUSA made some good points, I guess even if you're out there often, it's easier to do bulk than full line. 

I'm not great like you guys at all, but as far as full line.... I've tried my hand at that for years. Always had loser accounts, had to worry every time I saw a fire truck, an ambulance, whatever... Pop machines are heavy, cumbersome. Unless your dealing with a factory setting,a thirsty garage, or any customers where you have a few snacking consumers, or a million employees, not worth it.

 

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On 11/28/2017 at 7:45 AM, nepavend said:

I started the business myself in 2006. My father started helping out in 2014. It definitely is pretty busy. 

 

Kudos to Dad! When I did full line in the 90s, right after my dad had his heart attack, he thought he was going to help! He tried to help us load a pop machine into the van. I literally had to shoo him away. I treasure moments with my dad like that. Your very lucky.. Treasure your dad!

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wow the things I read here are great, a piece of my mind though...

I used to use a locator, not anymore

I locate all of my own, I actually get called to come in to replace other vendors because of their horrible service

I service all machines, sure mom and dad will help once in a blue, but I'm all alone

been doing it since 2011, never had issues, love the bulk, hate the full line, cant throw a soda machine in the back and expect to place it, bulk, no problem, ill place right away, but I don't! I want the location owner to know what he/she is signing up for, and I make sure I tell them and make a joke out of it. 

IM NEVER ON TIME, BUT IM ALWAYS HERE!

I've been looking into expansion of locations and workers, as for locations that's never an issue, but as for workers, its nearly impossible to find anyone good, even family sometimes will be a bad decision. I grew up running the family business, so unless its your direct sibling, they probably wont give 2 shits about it. I only say that bc no one treats the bulk business seriously, everyone says you're doing small time, go full line. What they don't understand is that I'm in it for a reason, slow and steady with no headaches is my game, if that soda machine goes down, you're done for the day!

As for workers, you will never find a good honest worker, then again, no one is perfect, but cash is the name of the game, a quarter here and a quarter there, you do the math

say 400 machines, with 3 heads, that's 1200 heads, just one quarter from each, and you now make $300/mo less    X     12 months   =  $3600per year loss, that's on the low side

full line..... 400 machines, just $1, and you're at $400/mo loss, and $4800 yearly loss, and that still on the low side

Honestly I can run 1000 bulk machines with zero help, and the only loss I will take is if the location closes.

stop being lazy, bulk is easy!

Anyone want to sell their boring routes? :)

 

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I was lucky I had help. I had back surgery two years ago yesterday and if it wasn’t for my dad and brother who stepped in I would have had no money coming in. I learned real quick about a Plan B in case god forbid something happened where I couldn’t go Service. Now with my new purchase I have my brother-in-law helping and he’s new to the biz and doin well with locating for a newbie. 

In some more populated areas you can do a large route with little or no help. My areas unfortunately are a bit spread out so I have help now in my farthest out areas from family. I’m grateful and lucky for that. 

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