Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 hello vendors, I need to remove the door on one of my crane 157s in order to navigate a tricky corner, but the problem is that when I try to turn the nut with my wrench, the entire screw spins. I'm having a hard time creating any pressure to remove the nut because the screw it's attached to is a flat top. Has anyone run into this before? Advice is always appreciated from the folks on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Are you saying the flush screw doesn't have a flat blade, philips blade or inside hex key slot at all? That's very doubtful. Get up there and look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 I have looked at it and it doesn't have a flat, phillips, or hex slot at all. It perplexed me the first time I removed the door. There's a 157 right next to the one I'm referring to, and 3/4 screws have some type of fitting except for the one giving me trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 To my knowledge no one makes a screw like that, at least not on purpose. You could grind a slot into it with a Dremel so a flat blade screwdriver could hold it. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 I was hoping to avoid that, but if that's what needs to be done then so be it. Sometimes I just wonder if it's something completely obvious that I'm missing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 And believe it or not I bought this machine from D&S before they stopped selling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 If the screw is slightly loose and you can fit a screwdriver blade in under the nut then pry down and away on the nut to jam the screw against the hole while trying to turn the nut. Plan on replacing the screw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 I might go the dremel route only bc I see that being a useful tool in the future. The screw/nut is in such a narrow part of the door creating any kind of leverage seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Can you post pics of what you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 I will take photos next time I'm on location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Also, you should not need to remove the machine door to get through the doorway. Is this a standard doorrway?We have always been able to get a 167 through a 32 inch door by removing the knockouts on the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I agree, only the top and bottom plates in the cabinet would need to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 I had to remove them to get through the doorway because there’s a cinderblock wall directly that the door/ delivery bin would make contact with before the entire cabinet could pass through the doorway, even with the panels removed. i might be able to avoid that removing the machines since I’m going the opposite way, but it’s pretty narrow and I’m anticipating the same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted Sunday at 04:52 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 04:52 PM Hey everyone, Link to the photos of the flat top screw + photos of the doorway: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OcE2Rr-Wt2_t99fWuptsGOYLeYcuZ7Oj?usp=sharing The doorway itself isn't the problem, it's the wall directly through it and the close proximity of the wall on the right after you walk through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted Monday at 04:20 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:20 AM Those kinds of locations never got machines from me. Too much trouble to deal with. Very odd on your headless screw but it obviously is not original as it doesn't fit the countersunk hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendo Mike Posted Monday at 12:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:47 PM We use hardware like this on outside facing hinges. Prevents anyone from being able to remove a hinge from outside the machine. There is likely a square shoulder on that blot that drops into a like shaped hole in the hinge plate. This prevents the bolt from spinning. Push down on the head to keep it in place while turning the nut on the threaded end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted Monday at 03:06 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:06 PM 2 hours ago, Vendo Mike said: We use hardware like this on outside facing hinges. Prevents anyone from being able to remove a hinge from outside the machine. There is likely a square shoulder on that blot that drops into a like shaped hole in the hinge plate. This prevents the bolt from spinning. Push down on the head to keep it in place while turning the nut on the threaded end. Thanks, Mike. I'll look for that. If I don't see it I'll resort to either dremeling the screw head or figuring out a way to create counter pressure so I can spin the nut while keeping the screw in place. @AZVendor This location was only supposed to be temporary. I had 4 four machines at two separate locations that merged into one while they built a new facility. It grosses $2500 a month, so to me well worth the trouble, though unfortunately I'm in the process of losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago You haven't had good luck in vending, have you? Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermo Vending Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago I have until recently, to be honest, but such is the nature of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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