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Ok guys do u reccomend a Chevy Astro or e150? I'm also thinking of getting a grand caravan or town and country. The crv doesnt serve me at all anymore. Too many snacks and cokes...

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Ok guys do u reccomend a Chevy Astro or e150? I'm also thinking of getting a grand caravan or town and country. The crv doesnt serve me at all anymore. Too many snacks and cokes...

I'm not a Ford fan but I'd go with the E150 with the 4.6,its roomier than the Astro and mileage should be better when its loaded and still have more power. Forget about the other 2 they're both front wheel drive.John

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The only thing that sucks is my girlfriend has a point...why not get something we could actually use later on when not vending. I.e. something with seats. I'm looking at a safari passenger could easily be cargo by removing the seats, its a 2003 with 120k for $3500 has rear ac. I'm also looking at some grand caravans and town and countrys for $4-5k.


Comparing them safari has 170 feet of cargo
Grand caravan 155

But g caravan gets 16/25 mpg and safari 15/20




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The only thing that sucks is my girlfriend has a point...why not get something we could actually use later on when not vending. I.e. something with seats. I'm looking at a safari passenger could easily be cargo by removing the seats, its a 2003 with 120k for $3500 has rear ac. I'm also looking at some grand caravans and town and countrys for $4-5k.


Comparing them safari has 170 feet of cargo
Grand caravan 155

But g caravan gets 16/25 mpg and safari 15/20


The Astro/Safari and the E150 are both great vehicles depending on what size you need...The full size Chevy Express/G1500-G3500 vans are really good too. I can appreciate wanting something with seats for dual purpose/usage which is why I just bought a Suburban however, even after buying that I am still wondering if I should buy a van or a trailer too due to my recent growth. (I am leaning towards a small trailer) I think I mentioned I was a mechanic for over 10 years. BTW...don't even think about the other two POS. Chrysler Corporation makes horrible vehicles for even light-duty grocery shopping/soccer mom type usage. I worked for an independent Chrysler garage and we were doing more transmissions on Caravans, Voyagers, Town & Countries, than I care to even remember. They also tend to have more (serious) engine failures/problems. I still have battle scars...Lots of repeat transmission failures too. (We did NOT rebuild, just removed/replaced with factory new/rebuilt) I wouldn't worry too much about gas mileage...when you really load down a small van (less than half ton) that isn't made to be loaded down, your gas mileage will get reduced tremendously anyway. Hope that helps.

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The only thing that sucks is my girlfriend has a point...why not get something we could actually use later on when not vending. I.e. something with seats. I'm looking at a safari passenger could easily be cargo by removing the seats, its a 2003 with 120k for $3500 has rear ac. I'm also looking at some grand caravans and town and countrys for $4-5k.


Comparing them safari has 170 feet of cargo
Grand caravan 155

But g caravan gets 16/25 mpg and safari 15/20


Man TKK, with all those cars you've got why would you need something with seats? Get a cargo van and stop diddling around! And while you're at it, get at least a 3/4 ton one - if you get to hauling a load of sodas you'll be glad you did.

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I know I have 4 vehicles right now. But I'd like to be able to put seats. Anyways I made up my mind. I'm going to get an astro or a safari. Not a cargo but the passenger which to me is the same thing except the option to put the seats if I ever want to use it for travel. Anyways I'm looking at 2000-2004s. Some are awd, some have 120-160k miles. I'll put like 4 links I think they r cheap too. I'll just sell one of my quads. Which one do you guys think will do good from the following? Is there something I should look at when buying one of these?

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I know I have 4 vehicles right now. But I'd like to be able to put seats. Anyways I made up my mind. I'm going to get an astro or a safari. Not a cargo but the passenger which to me is the same thing except the option to put the seats if I ever want to use it for travel. Anyways I'm looking at 2000-2004s. Some are awd, some have 120-160k miles. I'll put like 4 links I think they r cheap too. I'll just sell one of my quads. Which one do you guys think will do good from the following? Is there something I should look at when buying one of these?

http://elpaso.en.cra...3668462853.html http://elpaso.en.cra...3720702930.html

http://elpaso.en.cra...3737213797.html
http://elpaso.en.cra...3730416173.html

http://elpaso.en.cra...3706182570.html


I don't know which one's best from the pictures..I got mine for $3,800 a couple of years ago with 110K miles. It's an AWD and rated at 3/4 ton. I'm betting that if you get one with all the seats, they'll just end up sitting in your garage forever.

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I know I have 4 vehicles right now. But I'd like to be able to put seats. Anyways I made up my mind. I'm going to get an astro or a safari. Not a cargo but the passenger which to me is the same thing except the option to put the seats if I ever want to use it for travel. Anyways I'm looking at 2000-2004s. Some are awd, some have 120-160k miles. I'll put like 4 links I think they r cheap too. I'll just sell one of my quads. Which one do you guys think will do good from the following? Is there something I should look at when buying one of these?

http://elpaso.en.cra...3668462853.html http://elpaso.en.cra...3720702930.html

http://elpaso.en.cra...3737213797.html
http://elpaso.en.cra...3730416173.html

http://elpaso.en.cra...3706182570.html

#3 is the better looking and price as far as I can see. If you get one with seats there may be studs sticking up out of the floor that's the reason I put 4 2x2's down on the floor to lay plywood on and then I built a frame to hold totes.John

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Do you have pics of yours? How many accounts do u guys do a day?

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HERE'S MINE.
http://vendiscuss.ne...derson-vending/
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HERE'S MINE.
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I don't miss those days. I've had a box truck for 11 months now and wish I had gotten it sooner.

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How many machines do u service

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I don't miss those days. I've had a box truck for 11 months now and wish I had gotten it sooner.

That's my next move but I actually want a step van similar to what the post office uses. There was one another vendor was selling about a year ago but I wasn't prepared to spend 6 grand on it,maybe in the next year or so.John

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A box truck would be cool but it looks like crap outside a home, and I'm not that big right now. My route is only like 500-600 miles of driving a month. 13 locations 25 machines. I want to be able to load it up and be able to do the full route from say 9am-7pm. Once a week. There's like 5 locations that I service once every 2 weeks..just today I was able to fit only enough for 6 locations in my crv and took like an hour to load it

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How many machines do u service

I've got 28 locations with 55 machines.

I acquired a route last April that had twelve accounts. When I did that, it forced me out of my Tahoe. My main reason for getting the box truck was so I could stand up while building my orders.

I parked it in my driveway until winter came. Now I rent some warehouse space and store it inside. This also allows me to get and store deliveries from Coke and Pepsi.



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Just thought I would add to the discussion with some pics of my trucks.

http://imgur.com/a/WbV01#0

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Nice setup Broncho, I always was envious of vendors who used any of the Omnivan products. I like their refrigerated coolers, but their best product was their shelving. I bought one section designed for 20 oz bottles when I got into bottle vending with a couple of accounts way back when. I mounted it at the back of one of my wood shelving units by the rollup door, but I had always wanted a truck actually purpose-built by them. Are you using pre-kitting?

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Nice setup Broncho, I always was envious of vendors who used any of the Omnivan products. I like their refrigerated coolers, but their best product was their shelving. I bought one section designed for 20 oz bottles when I got into bottle vending with a couple of accounts way back when. I mounted it at the back of one of my wood shelving units by the rollup door, but I had always wanted a truck actually purpose-built by them. Are you using pre-kitting?


Yes we are using prekitting on the 3 trucks I showed. I have another omnivan that is setup for traditional route, but we are moving to full telemetry within 3 months. At that point I am going to rework the truck for the new era of our company. Right now we are doing around 120-150 cases a day through the prepick trucks along with 10-15 snack machines a day. They best part about our setup is that with our machines:

Slow moving drink- pulls by 12 or 24 pack
Mid range drink- pulls 6-12 packs
High volume drink-pulls in singles

Snacks are setup the same way but vary by product type:
Chips: 1-4
Candy 3-4
Crackers:pulls 3-4
Pastry:pulls 1-4

We have been able to spread machines an extra day for the accounts that are extremely high volume by pulling by 1's for each product. In fact, one of the drivers was able to do over 100cs + 18 full by himself in a 9 hour day thanks to this system. It allows them to move more product in less machines.

Also, the omni I showed is refrigerated and keeps all product ready to vend. That way we can have some items almost empty, but bring in cold drinks when filling the machines.

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Wow, you are doing a great job with your organizing and time saving methods. This is exactly what the industry recommends for vendors to do. I'm glad to see someone doing it and actually saving time and money. The refrigerated truck is a great idea if only to avoid having a seperate chilled container for candy that you would have to pick through. The telemetry is really the way to go in easing the labor burden. Do you use lower paid people to pack the prekitted snacks? Have you considered the Light Wave system? I really think that warehouse and route efficiency is the only way a guy with 3 or more routes can make it in this economy.
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Wow, you are doing a great job with your organizing and time saving methods. This is exactly what the industry recommends for vendors to do. I'm glad to see someone doing it and actually saving time and money. The refrigerated truck is a great idea if only to avoid having a seperate chilled container for candy that you would have to pick through. The telemetry is really the way to go in easing the labor burden. Do you use lower paid people to pack the prekitted snacks? Have you considered the Light Wave system? I really think that warehouse and route efficiency is the only way a guy with 3 or more routes can make it in this economy.


Lightspeed is ridiculously high priced system, or at least I felt it was. We are using a system using tablets now and when you touch the item it removes it from the list. We looked into making a system light lightspeed with the 7segment displays, but the cost was too high for the amount of verity we carry. Since all of our software is custom made for us, its easier to just develop your own system that fits you the best.