WayneB Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Add 1 - 2 mushrooms on the center rod. That should solve your problem mWorked out a lot better, good stuff. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Using a rattle can I repainted this rack. I had no issues until 3 days ago when I wanted to put a final coat on the lids. I got the dreaded paint wrinkle. So I waited 3 days for the original coat to cure, sanded all the wrinkles out and did a complete sanding of the coat. When I spayed a light test coat today, same stuff! Ugggg. I let the paint, lids all sit for an hour before spraying, temperature shouldn't have been an issue. I waited three days to recoat, curing shouldn't have been an issue. Distance from the peice was 12 inches so idk. Any ideas? PS... orsd you were correct, big pita! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Looks like they had oil or something on them. I use etching primer if I need to paint and sand tall good. Powder coat isn't meant to have paint over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick505 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 When I was still spray painting I only cleaned with winded and sprayed..I never had problems with spray paint sticking to the powder coat. Also when powder coating I do the same thing. Clean with winded and powder coat on top of previous powder coat. Sometimes it's a little difficult to get the powder to stick but it has always worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 This is a curing issue I think. First coat is coming out fine. I waited 3 days for second. Can says 48 hours. Probably wasn't ready. Sucky delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Anyone reading this thread know if you can upgrade the pn95 coin wheel from .25 to .50 or do I just need to buy full .50 mechs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Finally TOTALLY finished with this project. Just need to find it a new home... Total cost: $15 for the rack and machines $10 to get it home $65 for locks/parts/upgrade mechs/.50 mechs $40 for paint/sand paper/wd40 etc $135 to fill with product --------------------------------- Total invest for the rack $265 + 30-40 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Finally TOTALLY finished with this project. Just need to find it a new home... Total cost: $15 for the rack and machines $10 to get it home $65 for locks/parts/upgrade mechs/.50 mechs $40 for paint/sand paper/wd40 etc $135 to fill with product --------------------------------- Total invest for the rack $265 + 30-40 hours refurb-5-rack.jpg Nice. That's about half what just a new rack and machines would cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Actually a fraction of what new would cost- he added 135 of product in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 I really want to say thanks again for all the advice, I think this is a winning setup. Now I will wait until the machines I have earn enough to do the 7 way. Will take $300+/- I tried to locate this one at the cstore on the corner of my street but Lady got all wandering eyes talking about how she has machines all over for the blind people. (I think ashamed to try and explain she does charity instead of commission) but anyway I still wanted to say then why the hell don't you have a setup in your store woman?!? Probably best if I go higher traffic anyway. Mexican joint about 10 miles from me is next target. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 How do you guys feel about this no candy set up in mexican/china/pizza places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It will work well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Falcon Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Looks great where did you get the plexiglass from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Looks great where did you get the plexiglass from Good question. I haven't yet. Since I had the 5 way and 7 way I picked the best 8 panels from all and cleaned those. Now I will have to replace every single one on the 7 way. That goes for a number of things such as the chutes, globes, lids. The 7 way is going to cost a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Call around to the local sign shops and find out where they get their plexi pieces from. I found a guy close to me that does it out of his shop and does it cheaper than I can buy just the plexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotOiler3 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I'm way excited to see these racks done, as far as some of these guys saying its not "cost effective" I can appreciate the satisfaction in doing it yourself rather than simply buying some new or used machines that are ready to go. As far as the paint wrinkle, it's likely some kind of oil, but 12'' in my experience is still too close for rattle cans, I like MANY really, really light coats, ends up looking the best, and being the most durable. Looking forward to watch the progress of this restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Paint problem- Paint dries from the outside to the inside. So what is happening is you are painting over paint that has not cured. Sometimes it takes days. As the inside layers are still drying the thinner comes out and leaves the orange peel. Cause is laying on too thick of coats. In rattle can technology, it takes an enormous amount of thinner to actually move the color, about 90-95%. So its the thinner evaporating that causes the problem. That's why the HVLP spray gun was invented (High Volume Low Pressure) To reduce the amount of thinner needed. Mechs- You still have to buy a new face plate, coin wheel, pawls (dogs), and a spring, but it can be done. On a NW 60 mech it will cost approx 11.00. So buying new is less hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Paint problem- Paint dries from the outside to the inside. So what is happening is you are painting over paint that has not cured. Sometimes it takes days. As the inside layers are still drying the thinner comes out and leaves the orange peel. Cause is laying on too thick of coats. In rattle can technology, it takes an enormous amount of thinner to actually move the color, about 90-95%. So its the thinner evaporating that causes the problem. That's why the HVLP spray gun was invented (High Volume Low Pressure) To reduce the amount of thinner needed. Mechs- You still have to buy a new face plate, coin wheel, pawls (dogs), and a spring, but it can be done. On a NW 60 mech it will cost approx 11.00. So buying new is less hassle. Sounds like you might have some paint experience! Lol! Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 Locating a rack is far more challenging than single/double/triple head, the cstores looked at the pics like I want to park a tank in their shops. They weren't hearing anything else just "I don't have the room". Ok fine. Got a bunch of candy leads having my nephew call around to the pizza/mexican places. Got one solid lead of placing the rack at a popular pizza joint. Catch is they already have a bunch of machines and a big rack but they say we are going to open an additional wing or dining area and want to add a rack to it. My first question was, why not from the guy who has the rack already? Nephew answered that his commission offer was better so they wanted to give it try. Better than my living room so I am going to check it out, think this boy has offered them 30% though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney69 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 30% is great for a rack. Of course less is better, but that's a solid place to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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