bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 So what is the deal with people putting charity stickers on their machines? I have decided to donate to the local Town Lake Animal Shelter here in Austin, I requested stickers from them at first but not I'm not so sure If I need to put them on/ want to put them on. Plus with some of these other charities you are required to pay $1/mo per sticker? Why do that when you can give whatever portion you like with a local charity? Discuss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbishop Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 read the forums and you will see why. locators can get locations easier if they call the charity route and if you end up with a $50 per month loc the vendor still only pays $1. Their is a lot of controversy of charity vending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I understand that. What about the machines that do the national average of $7/mo though? You are cutting down on the profits that you make. It seems to me that just getting something made from a local charity or making something yourself to tape onto your machine would prove to be cheaper in the end than promising $1/mo. I fully intend to donate at least around $1/mo or the equivalent of 10% but I dont really think its a good business practice to do so if I'm only bringing in below 10/mo on a machine. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 If its a single with gumballs doing $10 a month then I wouldn't mind $1 a month. If you want to go the charity route and your location can't support a dollar a month you need to change product or remove machine altogther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mage Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 There are different charity stickers out there. Some you just place on the machine, and never make a donation, such as the child search ones. There is controversy, mostly because some people act like 100% of the profits go to charity, when they don't. Others think that $1 a month is nothing, but if a person is running 100 locations, that is $1,200 a year for the charity. Also nothing says that you only need to give that $1 per machine. I have decided to give 15% of my profits out of each charity machine I have. (Only after candy/stickers and tax. I don't include any other expense in this figure.) At that point, if my figure says I should be paying less the that $1 a month, it is going to be moved. Now I only have triples out, no single heads. And unfortunately none of my charity locations are doing the average $7 per head. But they are all making more then $1. Anyway what about the discus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dperry Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The national average is just that... an average. I have some spots that do $10 a month, and some that even do upwards of $50. But by far the ones I have the most of are the ones that do around 1 vend a day. But, when I avarage all my charity stops together, it does about $9.75 a head per month. That's about 10% commission when a sticker goes for $1.00. Think about giving a commision to a location when you only do $7 a month. "Ok Mr. Location Owner, here's your $1.40 commission. That's 20% to you. Enjoy!" Imagine how much fun it would be if you only did 10% commission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizugori Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 There are different charity stickers out there. Some you just place on the machine, and never make a donation, such as the child search ones. That is not true, childsearch requires at least $1 per sticker per month, AND you have to commit to pay for at least 1 year before they will end the contract. And if you get less than 10 at a time, you have to pay for a year up front. If you get 10 or more, you can pay monthly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurtsman Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 It's a numbers thing. I prefer commission, but do charity as well. I have some very profitable charity locations, and I have some charity machines in my living room looking for new homes. I'm paying 1$/month on those as well. If it wasn't a charity, I would return the stickers and only order the sticker when each machine went out. Since I really do support the charity, I won't put them through that administrative nightmare to avoid donating an extra 5$ a month. This system works very well for charities that understand how to use it. It also works for vendors who know how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizugori Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 oh and also, I pay more than the royalty to the charity (childsearch), I give them a percentage of the gross sales as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrantha Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Bigtay The key is to do whatever you commit to doing. If you are not going to do it, then don't commit to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mage Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Okay I was wrong about the child search. But I read about one charity that can be used that does not charge a monthly fee to use their stickers, but it was about a year ago when I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I don't like the look of stickers all over my machines. All my product labels and service labels are laminated and taped to the inside top of the globes so that the lid hides the tape. Changing them is a breeze. As for my charity locations I do local with no labels. That is a commitment from me and the location owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 See I'm right there with you Hillbilly, I haven't placed stickers on my machine because I don't like the way that it looks. All I'm saying is that I dont understand why people are obligating themselves to $1/mo when you can support a local charity. Spill the donation over into your MMA or Savings and then make the donation before the 1st of Jan every year. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 We're obligating ourselves cause it works for us if it doesn't work for you then don't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Well I'm not I'm just trying to understand why people choose to do it that way is all Mainor....for some reason at first I thought this was the only way you could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I use NCCS for a few reasons. I like that they already have a vending program in place, they are a nationally recognized charity, and its a charity that people are quick to sympathize with because it deals with children with an illness. I think the most important thing when choosing a charity is its one that is self explantory so they aren't wondering what in the world is he talking about. I was in between about using NCCS or my local humane society at first and chose NCCS because it already had a vending program in place that offered you materials to use when dealing with locations. As I move forward I will be doing less and less charity vending in the future and more commission accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Gotcha Mainor that is understandable....I still have people that arent sure what the ASPCA is so I get where your coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 As I move forward I will be doing less and less charity vending in the future and more commission accounts. there's nothing at all wrong with charity vending but the serious one's like mainor understand commission is the way! hey mainor how are things on the coast? better I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtay6187 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm understanding that too from what everyone has told me....I'm kinda thinking from here on out I will just go with racks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 there's nothing at all wrong with charity vending but the serious one's like mainor understand commission is the way! hey mainor how are things on the coast? better I hope We're good here around Panama City Beach, the oil never got to us but not out of the woods yet a bad storm could send whats left out there are way. Feel sorry for those in Louisanna, hurricane Katrina was enough devastation to last them a life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I'm understanding that too from what everyone has told me....I'm kinda thinking from here on out I will just go with racks. Good choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I'm understanding that too from what everyone has told me....I'm kinda thinking from here on out I will just go with racks. For me when deciding between racks only or singles, doubles and racks in comes down to deciding how big of a service area do I want to cover (take into consideration I hate driving). Not wanting to go more than 150-200 miles at the max made the decision easy. To get to where I want to be I will have to utilize every possible location in this radius including singles, doubles and racks. Havending can probably attest to this, he does racks only and has an insane size route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 For me when deciding between racks only or singles, doubles and racks in comes down to deciding how big of a service area do I want to cover (take into consideration I hate driving). Not wanting to go more than 150-200 miles at the max made the decision easy. To get to where I want to be I will have to utilize every possible location in this radius including singles, doubles and racks. Havending can probably attest to this, he does racks only and has an insane size route. Every vendor will eventually need to make a decision pertaining to the size of their service area radius depending on their business model and goals. I would agree that the smaller the area, the less pickier you can be. It would be nice to just cherry pick the A grade monster gravy locations, but there are not enough to go around in a small service area. You will have to do a little bit of everything if you want to stay close to home IMHO. Those small charity spots can add up fast if they are concentrated in an area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Snacks Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Bigtay The key is to do whatever you commit to doing. If you are not going to do it, then don't commit to it. Exactly! Simple and to the point! Just do what you feel comfortable with. As I said before, you don't have to be in the vending business to donate to a charity! A guy can have a lawn maintenance service business and still make donations. But does he have a charity sticker on each lawn mower? No!! Does he make regular donations? Yes!! But on the other hand, if he really wants that sticker for what ever reason, then that's his privilege too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlock Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I still have people that arent sure what the ASPCA is so I get where your coming from. That glass is not half empty. It's half full. Your work with your charity vending will inform a lot of people of the ASPCA that may not have known of their cause without you. You're not just raising money -- you're raising awareness. And THAT is a huge bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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