smartvendnw Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Company is selling a Crane 147 SureVend MDB upgrade for a smoken price. New tough front vinyl installed as well, it looks to be completely refurbished. This is a good all-around machine yes? Crane has so many different model numbers I'm not sure if this one is 30, 20, 10 years old? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I am not a fan of this machine, for 3 reasons: The inside is hard to make look nice due to the awful paint scheme. In order to function reliably the shelves need to be wired direct which takes a few hours and $175.00. Lastly, the transformer is weak. It can barely handle a MDB bill with a solenoid payout changer. Add a MDB card reader and that board will struggle, even if you wire both 24VAC outputs together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bvending Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 IMO the 147 is a good machine, although they did have some drawbacks. The shelf connection being one. I'm seeing refurbished ones anywhere from 1300-1600. This includes fresh paint, tuff front and rebuild mech and Val. I found one for 1600 from a reputable company that already had the tray harness installed. For 400 more you get the new board with mdb and survend. What price are they asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bvending Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 To add, I don't have any experience with the upgraded 147 to mdb. So I'm sure lacanteen is on to something. I think they are good in its original state with the harness upgrade. that's just been my experience. If I need mdb I have been upgrading to 167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKK Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Are the 148s a diferent ball game? 167s too Meant 167s and 168s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartvendnw Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 IMO the 147 is a good machine, although they did have some drawbacks. The shelf connection being one. I'm seeing refurbished ones anywhere from 1300-1600. This includes fresh paint, tuff front and rebuild mech and Val. I found one for 1600 from a reputable company that already had the tray harness installed. For 400 more you get the new board with mdb and survend. What price are they asking? $1195 on ebay. Unfortunately shipping is $458 to WA from him on the east coast. I am not a fan of this machine, for 3 reasons: The inside is hard to make look nice due to the awful paint scheme. In order to function reliably the shelves need to be wired direct which takes a few hours and $175.00. Lastly, the transformer is weak. It can barely handle a MDB bill with a solenoid payout changer. Add a MDB card reader and that board will struggle, even if you wire both 24VAC outputs together. Thanks. I'm going to pass because of shipping rates, but this just confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bvending Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Are the 148s a diferent ball game? 167s too Meant 167s and 168s 148 is the 4 wide version of 147. 167/168 are already mdb with servend and have no problems running cc readers that I have experienced so far. All I have been ordering the past few months are refurbished 167/168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartvendnw Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 If the machine had the tray harness upgrade included, plus new vinyl fronts, plus MDB and surevend upgrade- would you still pass? I had a local guy also tell me that the 147s just not worth it anymore. He'll take $1000. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 They are old but good machines. I wouldn't buy a stock National 147/148 for $1,000. I would rather invest that into a later model, even if the later model is also used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCOTT1963 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I'm not saying it is a bad or good machine. Personally i think my hard earned money is better spent on something newer. If i am going older all i will take is a 110 series. iF newer, 160 series machines are what I prefer. Try to keep it streamlined to cut costs, I keep it to 4 machines in the mix. AP110's, NAT160's, DIX501's and DIX BevMax. Thats it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I'm not saying it is a bad or good machine. Personally i think my hard earned money is better spent on something newer. If i am going older all i will take is a 110 series. iF newer, 160 series machines are what I prefer. Try to keep it streamlined to cut costs, I keep it to 4 machines in the mix. AP110's, NAT160's, DIX501's and DIX BevMax. Thats it for me. Totally agree with you in regards to streamlining especially as I am 8000 miles away from getting parts.... I am just curious on which model BevMax's you are using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT1963 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 BEV 3 AND 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 BEV 3 AND 4 I see that you also mentioned the AP110's.... are you using the revision door on these? I like the 110's but I think the keypad looks dated which is why I prefer the 120's instead as they have a more modern look once they have been refurbished. I picked up a AP122 yesterday for $100 (without payment system) which I was happy with but passed on a NAT147 as I prefer the NAT160's.... it was hard to pass up but if I would have brought both my wife would've kicked me back onto the couch again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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