57thTom Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The technition was putting selection buttons on the DN 501 E this afternoon and he told me that Coke and Pepsi machines come with CO 2 or propane cooling decks now. He is from the local Canteen franchise, so he would know. Has anyone else heard of that? Won't that make life difficult for independent vending operators in a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57thTom Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 http://www.r744.com/articles/3466/coca-cola_to_approve_9_models_of_co_sub_2_sub_vending_machine-exclusive_interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vendcobros Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 In our area they switched to co2 last year but are now sending out kits to switch them back to r134a decks. The co2 compressors are more difficult to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57thTom Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 This guy said the carbon dioxide decks only last 8 months. It sounds miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venddoctor Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 You can thank your government for this all vending machines will be switching to propane or Co2 soon (by 2020) due to an EPA mandate that outlaws 134a and others refrigerants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 It's quite convenient for the refrigerant mfg's actually. Every 20 years it seems like the current refrigerant is found to be raping the earth. Coincidentally, patents last 20 years. And there is always a new refrigerant that will save all the harp seals, but it just so happens to be patented, like R 1234yf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 It also seems like the decks go bad faster and faster and the refrigerant is less and less effective. I don't know if that applies to co2. Fortunately, it's completely non-toxic so, assuming it's pure co2, I would like to believe that it will theoretically become cheaper to service and recharge but I literally don't know golpher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana123 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 What does it cost to transition a machine to CO2 or propane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Why? Co2 decks are less reliable than regular R134 decks. You cannot retrofit R290 (propane) in a machine not built for it, as they have special features to prevent propane explosions. If the deck explodes your golpher is toast legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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