Dvending Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I’m a 1 month newbie to vending and currently have a MAG50B validater in an AP430 snack machine. It accepts $1 bills with no problems, but when I put in a $5 bill it credits only $3. With a $10 bill it only credits $5. Good for me, but not my customers😳. I’ve tried researching the issue, but cannot find an answer. Dip switches are set to accept $1, 5 & 10’s and the unit has been tuned for 2008 currency. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tblake05 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Mei 27xx series validator instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvending Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I am not sure the AP430 is capable of accepting/crediting larger bills. You may need to upgrade th board if you want to accept them. That machine is 40 yrs old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendo Mike Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If someone purchases a $2 item with a $10 bill, your coin mech will have to dump 36 quarters in change. Are you paying out dollar coins or is there a recycler in the machine? What is the plan for paying change on those larger bills if you can get the NV430 to accept them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 True point. I just experimented with the $10 bill, but I would like to see it accept $5. It’s in the place where I work so it won’t run out of change with me being there to service it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) cvending: To your point shouldn’t the validator still show the right credit if it’s reading the bill correctly. Maybe I’m not understanding how everything interacts. It gives the correct change based on the credit it sees. Just thought there might be a fix to get it to recognize a $5 correctly. I haven’t tried cleaning or anything yet. Edited February 21, 2022 by Dvending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendo Mike Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 I think the NV430 worked on a "pulse per dollar" setting which, if set incorrectly, will give improper credit. It's been a while so you might consult your manual to double check those settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 I will check that out. Thanks Vendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCandyMaN Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 sounds like a pulse machine where only half the credit is being given. if all else fails, contact coinco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 It's not a National 430, it's a dinosaur AP430 snack. It would have an aftermarket kit in it to take bills and it will never take 5's correctly without emptying your coin mech of change. See, I told you it would be problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 Yes it has an aftermarket kit. And yet it still works fine for the market it is in. Even if it won’t take 5’s. Still takes ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Yes, ones only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 So, just to update those who may be interested, the problem seems to have been with the pulse setting on the bill validator. I switched the dip switch from the 150ms pulse to the 50ms pulse. It now reads $5 bill correctly. Thanks to Vendo Mike and NY Candyman for the pulse suggestion. May not have been the right machine, but it got me thinking about the dip switch functions on the MAG50B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 So now you get to experience changer starvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendo Mike Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Glad it's working for you. Gonna need at least a 4 tube changer with $1 payout or you'll be refilling your quarter tube constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvending Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Yeah. Figured. Not sure the board supports dollar coin change return or how I make that work. It’s an MEI coin actuator, but I’m not sure which model. Fortunately most of the guys in my shop use coins and $1 bills. Right now they are unaware that it takes $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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