Apple Leisure Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 A couple of times now while loading the machine a single can from the number 5 column suddenly dropped. I've also had a few reports of people not getting that selection when purchased, leading me to believe a single can drops from that column from time to time, without the motor turning. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savend Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Sounds like a shim is missing or it doesn’t have the correct shim for the can you are using. Was the machine originally set up for bottles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuikVend Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Check the shim first. Check to make sure the cam is set correctly and the motor is stopping in the right position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 This happened to me on a 501 mpc. It was missing a shim (needs two on both sides). I remedied my problem by changing the cam to vend 2-deep (2 notches on narrow column) and adjusted the back spacer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 The DN600s have always been notorious for warped side walls between wide columns after many years of service selling cans, especially with bottler machines. Think hundreds of thousands of cans sold from one machine. The weight of all that product can warp the side walls which can't be repaired. The only fix when this happens is to put less product in the columns to prevent the weight from distorting the side walls, assuming that you do have all the correct shims and that the columns are set up properly. If this is an E model then the issue is probably not as common since there would only be one wide column and most E models have been converted to bottles which aren't as likely to cause the distortion. If this is a T model then you will be subject to the sidewall distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Leisure Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 hours ago, QuikVend said: Check the shim first. Check to make sure the cam is set correctly and the motor is stopping in the right position I'm going to check the shim(s) tomorrow. If the cam setting is wrong I would get a consistent error would I not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savend Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 It could be the motor for that column over running just enough to make it fall out. If it’s a model with the door switch, you can hold down the switch for that particular column & then press the door switch to get the motor to home. If it is an older model with the triple switch it should run when you press the switch for that column. You can always just run money through the machine too. You should hear a solid click & the motor stop running when it comes to the next stop on the cam. If it goes a little too far it could be a sticky motor brake, maybe a missing or stretched spring in the motor brake or a broken motor stop (I can’t remember what it is called, but it’s a little white piece of plastic that has an L shape at the end that stops the very center of the motor at the end of the cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I have a 501e selling cans that does this in the double column. All shims are correct, but this machine has seen lots and lots of vends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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