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You have to look at your time. It is hard to change product in a triple without canisters that don't come on and off

You are wrong there. I can swap product in all 3 compartments in the Tripleplay in less than 5 minutes.

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Well, I've never had the displeasure of purchasing any kind of triple but If you are determined to buy new, and determined to buy a triple, and determined to buy a NW, I would imagine the cheapest place to get a genuine, new, NW triple play would be Sam's.

I could be wrong but I can't imagine any reseller selling them cheaper than Sam's since Sam's is probably the place where the resellers get them.

This advice is the same I would give.

BTW, to reiterate, serious vendors don't buy triples.

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I have bought alot of 1800 triples and make good money with them but after doing this for over a year now i can honestly say single heads are the way to go. I'm gonna continue to sell off my triples and just keep a few for certain locations. Will.vend has shown me the light, panel head machines are the way to go, too bad the 45 A&A's in my shop are regular cannisters.

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I have bought alot of 1800 triples and make good money with them but after doing this for over a year now i can honestly say single heads are the way to go. I'm gonna continue to sell off my triples and just keep a few for certain locations. Will.vend has shown me the light, panel head machines are the way to go, too bad the 45 A&A's in my shop are regular cannisters.

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Shine some light over here, what is so great about panel heads?....Maybe I am missing something here, but I actually own a few and do not see the advantages.huh.gif

I like and recommend the small panel heads because:

I can prepack heads and carry them on my van for quicker servicing

they hold less so I can spread product further

if I need to I can add up to 3 cabinet extensions (1 extension makes them the size of a 450 or super 60)

replacing one panel is easy if cracked or broken, a cracked/broken globe has to have entire globe replaced

you can secure display to front panel with twist tie

these are just my personal preferences and I was shown this by my dad who has been vending for over 60 yrs so I figured I would listen, but it might not be for you. I hope this helps

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You have valid points, I like the replacing panel advantage and the display advantage as far as pre-packing heads you can do that with any 1" machine. I have 4 of them on a 7-way , but to me they just look cheap (please don't be offended). I was just curious , thinking I was missing something bigger I guess. I remember the first time I was emptying out a 1" panel head half full of candy (small route purchase this year) I tipped the head into a empty gumball box and all the panels slid right out and caught me by suprise, then I whispered to myself , "you dumbazz what did you think was gonna happen?"...grin.gif

Thats why they make those little clips to hold them in that cost .05 each.

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I like and recommend the small panel heads because:

I can prepack heads and carry them on my van for quicker servicing

they hold less so I can spread product further

if I need to I can add up to 3 cabinet extensions (1 extension makes them the size of a 450 or super 60)

replacing one panel is easy if cracked or broken, a cracked/broken globe has to have entire globe replaced

You sound like you are channeling Bob Butler.

you can secure display to front panel with twist tie

Not certain how you would do that. Can you elaborate on that?

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Did he get rich quick? How did he finance all that in the beginning?

If I had to guess it was private finance from the streets of Brooklyn. Many years ago vending was mobed in much of the country. Now for you folz lovers out there.

The question was asked and I too a guess. Based on knowledge I know of how things worked in the earley years.

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I mostly use large AA globes. I like them because they hold a whole bag of caps and with a goal of longer service cycles it helps out. Replacing a globe is only four screws and 8.00. And I dump product out into bags. But I also like small panel heads and have been buying more lately. I like them because of the sleak look and I really like that you can fit more on a rack. And for volume you can use excaps. And In a pinch you can get plexi at home depot.

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If I had to guess it was private finance from the streets of Brooklyn. Many years ago vending was mobed in much of the country. Now for you folz lovers out there.

The question was asked and I too a guess. Based on knowledge I know of how things worked in the earley years.

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There are actually 3 members on the forum who could answer this question without speculating. Unfortunately they rarely post so I don't expect them to answer in this thread, but it would be interesting to hear the story first hand.

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Did he get rich quick? How did he finance all that in the beginning?

From what I know, it was not quickly. He ground it out, starting with a handful of peanut machines. When he got his first chain account, which I believe was Grand Union in the 1950's, I have no idea whether he had the money saved up or used outside financing. I would be surprised if it was mob money. I know that he used bank loans to finance major expansions after he had built an extremely large route.

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From what I know, it was not quickly. He ground it out, starting with a handful of peanut machines. When he got his first chain account, which I believe was Grand Union in the 1950's, I have no idea whether he had the money saved up or used outside financing. I would be surprised if it was mob money. I know that he used bank loans to finance major expansions after he had built an extremely large route.

You don't build an extensive route selling peanuts. Banks don't invest into uncharted water. Take fox woods in CT they started as a bingo hall. And when they wanted to build a casino no bank would even entertain the idea of a loan. So they used private money from investors. Many say that that money was approved by the mob. Who knows. I bet the banks are sorry now seeing that its the largest most profitable casino ever built.

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You don't build an extensive route selling peanuts. Banks don't invest into uncharted water. Take fox woods in CT they started as a bingo hall. And when they wanted to build a casino no bank would even entertain the idea of a loan. So they used private money from investors. Many say that that money was approved by the mob. Who knows. I bet the banks are sorry now seeing that its the largest most profitable casino ever built.

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Where do I say banks financed his initial growth?:huh:?

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Where do I say banks financed his initial growth?:huh:?

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You didnt. You said he got bank loans after he had an extensive route. And I said you do not get an extensive route selling peanuts.

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When I spoke of the bank I was talking about how the banks lost out with fox woods

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I don't really care where he got it.

All I know is that he sold out too early because of being worried that the large companies with deep corprate pockets would over take him. Then it was resold to coin star now nen and they all but killed the bulk end of it. And sold it off in many parts I even bought up some. And long story short put a lot of ppl out of work.

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I don't really care where he got it.

All I know is that he sold out too early because of being worried that the large companies with deep corprate pockets would over take him. Then it was resold to coin star now nen and they all but killed the bulk end of it. And sold it off in many parts I even bought up some. And long story short put a lot of ppl out of work.

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As far as whether he got out at the right time, shouldn't his number 1 concern be getting the most money? In this respect he did pretty well for himself, from what I've heard. Based on the general state of the industry, he would not have gotten more if he held on longer. We agree that Sugarloaf and Coinstar destroyed his business. They were so bad, it seemed like they were destroying it intentionally .

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Well guys i have a goal, i wanna make 1 million dollars before i get 18 years old. Im thinking that if i can expand my route rapidly i could achieve such a goal. If i make it big, im taking you all with me!

Well,

If you want to make a million dollars by the time you're 18, by my calculations you'll need about 8,000 heads doing $20 a month if you're currently 8 years ;D old

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8,000 heads doing $20 a month would be about a million dollars of profit (give or take) per year (though necessarily adjusted downward significantly when you factor in the service people, warehousing, insurance, bonding, gps controls, ez-count, G&A, inventory controls, gas, and other logistical elements for such an expansive route).

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