Hillbilly Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 You have to look at your time. It is hard to change product in a triple without canisters that don't come on and off You are wrong there. I can swap product in all 3 compartments in the Tripleplay in less than 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Profits Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well, I've never had the displeasure of purchasing any kind of triple but If you are determined to buy new, and determined to buy a triple, and determined to buy a NW, I would imagine the cheapest place to get a genuine, new, NW triple play would be Sam's. I could be wrong but I can't imagine any reseller selling them cheaper than Sam's since Sam's is probably the place where the resellers get them. This advice is the same I would give. BTW, to reiterate, serious vendors don't buy triples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This advice is the same I would give. BTW, to reiterate, serious vendors don't buy triples. ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainor5251 Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I have bought alot of 1800 triples and make good money with them but after doing this for over a year now i can honestly say single heads are the way to go. I'm gonna continue to sell off my triples and just keep a few for certain locations. Will.vend has shown me the light, panel head machines are the way to go, too bad the 45 A&A's in my shop are regular cannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I have bought alot of 1800 triples and make good money with them but after doing this for over a year now i can honestly say single heads are the way to go. I'm gonna continue to sell off my triples and just keep a few for certain locations. Will.vend has shown me the light, panel head machines are the way to go, too bad the 45 A&A's in my shop are regular cannisters. Andy's new nickname is Obi-Wan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Shine some light over here, what is so great about panel heads?....Maybe I am missing something here, but I actually own a few and do not see the advantages. I like and recommend the small panel heads because: I can prepack heads and carry them on my van for quicker servicing they hold less so I can spread product further if I need to I can add up to 3 cabinet extensions (1 extension makes them the size of a 450 or super 60) replacing one panel is easy if cracked or broken, a cracked/broken globe has to have entire globe replaced you can secure display to front panel with twist tie these are just my personal preferences and I was shown this by my dad who has been vending for over 60 yrs so I figured I would listen, but it might not be for you. I hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I dont think its a get rich business regardless of speed. Roger Folz would disagree with this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You have valid points, I like the replacing panel advantage and the display advantage as far as pre-packing heads you can do that with any 1" machine. I have 4 of them on a 7-way , but to me they just look cheap (please don't be offended). I was just curious , thinking I was missing something bigger I guess. I remember the first time I was emptying out a 1" panel head half full of candy (small route purchase this year) I tipped the head into a empty gumball box and all the panels slid right out and caught me by suprise, then I whispered to myself , "you dumbazz what did you think was gonna happen?"... Thats why they make those little clips to hold them in that cost .05 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dperry Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I like and recommend the small panel heads because: I can prepack heads and carry them on my van for quicker servicing they hold less so I can spread product further if I need to I can add up to 3 cabinet extensions (1 extension makes them the size of a 450 or super 60) replacing one panel is easy if cracked or broken, a cracked/broken globe has to have entire globe replaced You sound like you are channeling Bob Butler. you can secure display to front panel with twist tie Not certain how you would do that. Can you elaborate on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Did he get rich quick? How did he finance all that in the beginning? If I had to guess it was private finance from the streets of Brooklyn. Many years ago vending was mobed in much of the country. Now for you folz lovers out there. The question was asked and I too a guess. Based on knowledge I know of how things worked in the earley years. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGranger Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I loved that part in the Godfather when he yells at Tessio "Didn't I teach you nothing? Not so many candy heads. Toys! Tessio. Toys!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PnutGallery Co. Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I loved that part in the Godfather when he yells at Tessio "Didn't I teach you nothing? Not so many candy heads. Toys! Tessio. Toys!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will.vend Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 You sound like you are channeling Bob Butler. Not certain how you would do that. Can you elaborate on that? poke a small hole in the top of display thread a twist tie through and secure to top of panel head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I mostly use large AA globes. I like them because they hold a whole bag of caps and with a goal of longer service cycles it helps out. Replacing a globe is only four screws and 8.00. And I dump product out into bags. But I also like small panel heads and have been buying more lately. I like them because of the sleak look and I really like that you can fit more on a rack. And for volume you can use excaps. And In a pinch you can get plexi at home depot. Sent from mDesire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserri Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 If I had to guess it was private finance from the streets of Brooklyn. Many years ago vending was mobed in much of the country. Now for you folz lovers out there. The question was asked and I too a guess. Based on knowledge I know of how things worked in the earley years. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk There are actually 3 members on the forum who could answer this question without speculating. Unfortunately they rarely post so I don't expect them to answer in this thread, but it would be interesting to hear the story first hand. Sent using the Tapatalk Forum Viewer for Android. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Did he get rich quick? How did he finance all that in the beginning? From what I know, it was not quickly. He ground it out, starting with a handful of peanut machines. When he got his first chain account, which I believe was Grand Union in the 1950's, I have no idea whether he had the money saved up or used outside financing. I would be surprised if it was mob money. I know that he used bank loans to finance major expansions after he had built an extremely large route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 From what I know, it was not quickly. He ground it out, starting with a handful of peanut machines. When he got his first chain account, which I believe was Grand Union in the 1950's, I have no idea whether he had the money saved up or used outside financing. I would be surprised if it was mob money. I know that he used bank loans to finance major expansions after he had built an extremely large route. You don't build an extensive route selling peanuts. Banks don't invest into uncharted water. Take fox woods in CT they started as a bingo hall. And when they wanted to build a casino no bank would even entertain the idea of a loan. So they used private money from investors. Many say that that money was approved by the mob. Who knows. I bet the banks are sorry now seeing that its the largest most profitable casino ever built. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 You don't build an extensive route selling peanuts. Banks don't invest into uncharted water. Take fox woods in CT they started as a bingo hall. And when they wanted to build a casino no bank would even entertain the idea of a loan. So they used private money from investors. Many say that that money was approved by the mob. Who knows. I bet the banks are sorry now seeing that its the largest most profitable casino ever built. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Where do I say banks financed his initial growth?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Where do I say banks financed his initial growth?? [/quote You didnt. You said he got bank loans after he had an extensive route. And I said you do not get an extensive route selling peanuts. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk When I spoke of the bank I was talking about how the banks lost out with fox woods Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I don't really care where he got it. All I know is that he sold out too early because of being worried that the large companies with deep corprate pockets would over take him. Then it was resold to coin star now nen and they all but killed the bulk end of it. And sold it off in many parts I even bought up some. And long story short put a lot of ppl out of work. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I don't really care where he got it. All I know is that he sold out too early because of being worried that the large companies with deep corprate pockets would over take him. Then it was resold to coin star now nen and they all but killed the bulk end of it. And sold it off in many parts I even bought up some. And long story short put a lot of ppl out of work. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk As far as whether he got out at the right time, shouldn't his number 1 concern be getting the most money? In this respect he did pretty well for himself, from what I've heard. Based on the general state of the industry, he would not have gotten more if he held on longer. We agree that Sugarloaf and Coinstar destroyed his business. They were so bad, it seemed like they were destroying it intentionally . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havending Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 It seems that way. I often think that they bought it just for the cranes and kiddie rides because like you said the bulk went to hell. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Bum Vending Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Any update on the kid how his business is doing and if he close to his goal yet? How old is he anyway I don't believe it said how old he was and how much time had reach million before 18th birthday? I was curious for update on such a go getter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well guys i have a goal, i wanna make 1 million dollars before i get 18 years old. Im thinking that if i can expand my route rapidly i could achieve such a goal. If i make it big, im taking you all with me! Well, If you want to make a million dollars by the time you're 18, by my calculations you'll need about 8,000 heads doing $20 a month if you're currently 8 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogersmith Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 8,000 heads doing $20 a month would be about a million dollars of profit (give or take) per year (though necessarily adjusted downward significantly when you factor in the service people, warehousing, insurance, bonding, gps controls, ez-count, G&A, inventory controls, gas, and other logistical elements for such an expansive route). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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