allen watson Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hello All, I have an older Dixie-Narco single price soda machine that is giving out free sodas. It is not cancelling the credit after vending the first soda. I checked the motors and they are not "coasting" past the notch. I had the door open and inserted money, vended a soda but noticed the red light didn't come back on the Coinco BA30A after the drink was dispensed. When I pressed the drink selection again, another soda vended, then the credit was cancelled and the light on the bill validator came back on. It seems to only happen on two selections, not all of them and then only once. At first I thought it was a motor, but the motor is stopping in the correct location. I noticed it happens after the machine has been sitting idle for a while, because it only does it then and not when I try to get the machine to repeat the problem over and over. I can get it to do it only once, then, no matter how many times I try it, it won't screw-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 It sounds like you have gummed up motor cluster switches. This is especially true because you said it happens more often when there is time between vends. This allows the gummed up contacts to stick together again and they don't come free until the motor turns and operates the switches. Send me a PM if you need a couple of cluster switches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen watson Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thanks AZ. Is the cluster switch the one on the motor cam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 What AZ said. Cluster switches can and will make you wonder what is wrong? Simple single price machine can give you fits, I had one doing the exact same thing until I replaced all the cluster switches and now my trailer park queen has my little children sticking pieces of wood in slot for key. Thanks AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Simple single price machine can give you fits, I had one doing the exact same thing until I replaced all the cluster switches and now my trailer park queen has my little children sticking pieces of wood in slot for key. I don't want to sound rude but.... Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZVendor Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Thanks AZ. Is the cluster switch the one on the motor cam? Yes, the cluster switch is what runs on the edge of the motor cam. The switches aren't replaceable individually but as a set of three (the cluster). Do you need any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I don't want to sound rude but.... Huh? AngryChris I have a DN 440 in a trailer park with over two hundred trailers, I pull $150 every week from machine, that is why I call it a trailer park queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Alright. I just wasn't following the children sticking wood in slot for key thing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Alright. I just wasn't following the children sticking wood in slot for key thing lol. I have a security cover to install over key hole, because my machine is the hangout for almost 30 kids! One of them slide a piece of stick in blade slot and I had to dig it out before I could unlock machine to refill. That was not fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I get it now. I was way off. You don't even want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen watson Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thanks for the help. AZ, I'm going to check my pile, er, inventory to see if I have a couple. If not, I will definitely need you. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorhino Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 For my own knowledge is this what you are referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan9325 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 AngryChris I have a DN 440 in a trailer park with over two hundred trailers, I pull $150 every week from machine, that is why I call it a trailer park queen. Is your machine outdoors at the trailer park, and is it a very low income trailer park, or more like a residential "middle class" trailer park? I have considered this as an option for some time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Is your machine outdoors at the trailer park, and is it a very low income trailer park, or more like a residential "middle class" trailer park? I have considered this as an option for some time.. hawsfan9325 Yes, my machine is located in the middle of the trailer park of a low to middle class park. It is outside under a pavilion, where all the kids hang out at, or you can say school bus pick up! No commission, and no stores close to park. I'm waiting on summer time to get here, might have to put a second machine there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I have a DN 440 in a trailer park with over two hundred trailers, I pull $150 every week from machine, that is why I call it a trailer park queen. Cajun, do you mind me asking what you are selling your cans at? That a pretty good sight for a single price machine. I have to remember when comparing sales that I should be looking at the unit figure instead of the dollar figure to determine how good a sight is. An example would be: If you are selling cans @.75c & pulling $150/week you are selling 200 units If you sold 200 units here @ $1.50 you would be pulling $300/week I hope this makes sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 hawsfan9325 Yes, my machine is located in the middle of the trailer park of a low to middle class park. It is outside under a pavilion, where all the kids hang out at, or you can say school bus pick up! No commission, and no stores close to park. I'm waiting on summer time to get here, might have to put a second machine there. Just make dang sure you've got an extra circuit out there before you lug an extra machine out there only to find it won't work. Maybe a bigger machine would work better - you could have thirty kids ripping around on Monsters all day (Monsters on Monsters ) Just think how popular you'd be then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Cajun, do you mind me asking what you are selling your cans at? That a pretty good sight for a single price machine. I have to remember when comparing sales that I should be looking at the unit figure instead of the dollar figure to determine how good a sight is. An example would be: If you are selling cans @.75c & pulling $150/week you are selling 200 units If you sold 200 units here @ $1.50 you would be pulling $300/week I hope this makes sense.... Let's see, Mike loads up his Airboat with 200 cans of Soda - takes off across the Gulf of Mexico, pays the transit fees through the Panama Canal and heads for NZ once every week to service one machine/ Nope, that makes no sense at all Kiwi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Let's see, Mike loads up his Airboat with 200 cans of Soda - takes off across the Gulf of Mexico, pays the transit fees through the Panama Canal and heads for NZ once every week to service one machine/ Nope, that makes no sense at all Kiwi Smart Golpher!! But then again I would expect that from you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Cajun, do you mind me asking what you are selling your cans at? That a pretty good sight for a single price machine. I have to remember when comparing sales that I should be looking at the unit figure instead of the dollar figure to determine how good a sight is. An example would be: If you are selling cans @.75c & pulling $150/week you are selling 200 units If you sold 200 units here @ $1.50 you would be pulling $300/week I hope this makes sense.... Heck no I don't mind Kiwi. I've been selling Shasta drinks out of machine at .75 a can. I have only one store here in New Iberia that sells it, when it is on sale I can buy it 4/12 packs for $10, or I buy the single six pack for .97 and load up the buggy! Nobody complains about the brand of drink I put in machine. If I pull a name brand out of another machine I simply put it in my trailer park machine as a treat for them and it sells no problem. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Just make dang sure you've got an extra circuit out there before you lug an extra machine out there only to find it won't work. Maybe a bigger machine would work better - you could have thirty kids ripping around on Monsters all day (Monsters on Monsters ) Just think how popular you'd be then LOL! Monsters on Monster! I talked to my buddy who owns park about installing another outlet just in case I would put another machine there. I been trying to find a 501E machine local, so I can put bottles and monster! I just about gave up on it. As for the airboat the $100 of gas in tank don't last very long! I would need a supply barge just to cross the gulf! Kiwi is just plain out of luck on me bring him any cheap drinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musser Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would seriously consider a frozen machine, ice cream and even small frozen dinners. I know a guy that sells a lot of those cheapie pot pies in a low income area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would seriously consider a frozen machine, ice cream and even small frozen dinners. I know a guy that sells a lot of those cheapie pot pies in a low income area. I wish I could! I'm lucky to have a machine there and not messed with too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 LOL! Monsters on Monster! I talked to my buddy who owns park about installing another outlet just in case I would put another machine there. I been trying to find a 501E machine local, so I can put bottles and monster! I just about gave up on it. As for the airboat the $100 of gas in tank don't last very long! I would need a supply barge just to cross the gulf! Kiwi is just plain out of luck on me bring him any cheap drinks! Just adding an extra outlet on the same circuit won't get it - you'll need extra wire pulled hopefully in the same conduit. Otherwise it might be cheaper to buy a brand new machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCandy Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Just adding an extra outlet on the same circuit won't get it - you'll need extra wire pulled hopefully in the same conduit. Otherwise it might be cheaper to buy a brand new machine. That is exactly what we talked about doing , running a another wire from the breaker box with a 20 amp breaker. I told him whenever he is ready to do it I would buy everything to do it and help. Thanks for the concern moodog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 That is exactly what we talked about doing , running a another wire from the breaker box with a 20 amp breaker. I told him whenever he is ready to do it I would buy everything to do it and help. Thanks for the concern moodog! If the run is over 100' you'll need #10 wire (both hot and neutral) to avoid voltage drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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