ctekautz Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Alright, so I will start by explaining I have no experience when it comes to vending machines, but since I am the tech guy here at work anything to do with electricity is in someway a part of my job. We are having issues with a vending machine setup that has two machines connected to use one pay station. There is a vending machine "Bev Max 2" which contains the pay station inside of it, this machine works fine but the system that it is "attached" to (a Crane Model 137). Doesn't seem to work, if anyone has any good how-to's or anything like that I would appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVend Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 hours ago, ctekautz said: Alright, so I will start by explaining I have no experience when it comes to vending machines, but since I am the tech guy here at work anything to do with electricity is in someway a part of my job. We are having issues with a vending machine setup that has two machines connected to use one pay station. There is a vending machine "Bev Max 2" which contains the pay station inside of it, this machine works fine but the system that it is "attached" to (a Crane Model 137). Doesn't seem to work, if anyone has any good how-to's or anything like that I would appreciate it. I didn't know that you could connect 2 full size machines like that and have them share a payment system. I would be interested to see what that looks like. If there is a way to run 1 card reader to both of the machines that would save some money with he monthly connection fees. But I really doubt that is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southeast Treats Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Are you in the U.S. or elsewhere? I'm not familiar with any crane satellite machine setups in the US market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 50 minutes ago, OVend said: I didn't know that you could connect 2 full size machines like that and have them share a payment system. I would be interested to see what that looks like. If there is a way to run 1 card reader to both of the machines that would save some money with he monthly connection fees. But I really doubt that is possible. The machine in question is almost definitely a slave machine, meaning it has no control board and cannot function without the machine it is attached to. It's not as exciting as it may sound. And, honestly, I'd rather have two separate machines. Coin jams, bill jams, and card reader issues happen. I'd rather have one machine down than both down from one component failure. I also went through the phase of trying to think outside the box but there's no reason to have to do that when customers just want decent service and many other vendors can't even do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVend Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Southeast Treats said: Are you in the U.S. or elsewhere? I'm not familiar with any crane satellite machine setups in the US market. ah ok so its not just me. thought maybe I was missing out on something lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVend Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, AngryChris said: The machine in question is almost definitely a slave machine, meaning it has no control board and cannot function without the machine it is attached to. It's not as exciting as it may sound. And, honestly, I'd rather have two separate machines. Coin jams, bill jams, and card reader issues happen. I'd rather have one machine down than both down from one component failure. I also went through the phase of trying to think outside the box but there's no reason to have to do that when customers just want decent service and many other vendors can't even do that. very good points I agree. rather make some sales than no sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacanteen Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Crane experimented with this platform over 15 years ago. It didn't get much traction, meaning there is not many of these around and even fewer parts. The host Bev Maxx 2 is several model out of date and prone to their own problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctekautz Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Attached are images of the motherboard, it's that grey wire that runs between that two that I am assuming is supposed to link them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctekautz Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Also here is just the two vending machines side by side, the one on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctekautz Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 PS I know they are not stocked. I want to make sure they are working before I put in the effort to stock them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orsd Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 What exactly is wrong with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryChris Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I can't tell how many pins it has but if it's a 3x2 mdb plug, you may just need to get an mdb splitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venddoctor Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) The Crane 137 is a rebranded Automatic Products 937 and was designed to work with a BevMax 2 they were manufacture from September 2007 to June 2010. Not sure if they continued the programming for it on future versions of Bevmax or not. I doubt it as not many 137/937 where built. There should be a MDB harness coming out of the 137 which you would route into the Bevmax and plug it into J16 on the controller. The harness from the 137 should have a male 6 bin MDB plug and a Female 6 pin MDB plug. You plug the male plug into J16 on the controller if there is a harness plugged in that spot already power the machine down then unplug that harness and plug the 137 harness into it. Then plug whatever you unplugged into the female harness of the 137 harness then power back up Edited November 11, 2021 by venddoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctekautz Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 6:07 PM, venddoctor said: The Crane 137 is a rebranded Automatic Products 937 and was designed to work with a BevMax 2 they were manufacture from September 2007 to June 2010. Not sure if they continued the programming for it on future versions of Bevmax or not. I doubt it as not many 137/937 where built. There should be a MDB harness coming out of the 137 which you would route into the Bevmax and plug it into J16 on the controller. The harness from the 137 should have a male 6 bin MDB plug and a Female 6 pin MDB plug. You plug the male plug into J16 on the controller if there is a harness plugged in that spot already power the machine down then unplug that harness and plug the 137 harness into it. Then plug whatever you unplugged into the female harness of the 137 harness then power back up Did this and nothing happen, still won't allow me to input the codes for the slave machine. Feel likely it's likely a machine hardware issue at this point. Thanks everyone for the replies I really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venddoctor Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 You will need to have the bevmax scan the motors on the 137 before they will work. I will try to upload the programming later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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