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Hey, anybody here have an opinion on the H.U.M.A.N. Healthy Vending machines and the company's "business opportunity"? Are these companies scams? How pricey are these machines?

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dunno anything about it but the idea of a belt drive system makes sense i was just thinking about that the other day after getting a complaint about a bag hanging up in the coils :)

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Actually the Jofemar machines delivery system works quite well. It is very different from what we are used to seeing and as such has not been widely accepted.

Most of these healthy vending companies do not manufacture machines, they just rewrap standard machines so they have pretty to them.

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Most of these healthy vending companies do not manufacture machines, they just rewrap standard machines so they have pretty to them.

That is absolutely correct. I took a long hard look at the yonaturals "business opportunity", then they went away and reformed as Fresh Healthy Vending using a franchise concept. I actually have a couple of e-mails from the two different companies but are from the same person. They are using AMS combo machines that have a custom vinyl graphics package on them, and selling them for around 10K a piece which is more than twice full retail on those machines.

You can create your own green healthy vending machines for about half the price.

I looked at the concept really hard to learn about the products they are selling. Go walk through Whole Foods and you will find many of the products being offered in these "branded" machines. I have incorporated some of the products into some of my regular machines as a "premium product" and have been generally pleased with the results.

I personally would not buy into any of these concepts.

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mission,

are those type of products easily sourceable wholesale?

just curious

I started out by talking with the grocery manager at my local Whole Foods and he readily agreed to special order stuff by the case for me and got a slight discount as well.

One I figured what items I could actually sell I went direct to UNFI. The Vistar of the natural and organic foods world. Like Vistar you need to order $1,000 to avoid extra delivery charges. So now I will order from UNFI and pick up a few things as needed at whole foods until I can order the minimum.

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I started out by talking with the grocery manager at my local Whole Foods and he readily agreed to special order stuff by the case for me and got a slight discount as well.

One I figured what items I could actually sell I went direct to UNFI. The Vistar of the natural and organic foods world. Like Vistar you need to order $1,000 to avoid extra delivery charges. So now I will order from UNFI and pick up a few things as needed at whole foods until I can order the minimum.

based on ur comments in the past, i suspect the stuff doesnt actually sell ?

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no need to apologize the comments are greatly appreciated. when you say

After months of trial and error I've found a number of items that sell fairly well and I can make a profit of over .50 per turn on them as well.

do you mind sharing? or is that a trade secret.

thanks for the insights and comments

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no need to apologize the comments are greatly appreciated. when you say

After months of trial and error I've found a number of items that sell fairly well and I can make a profit of over .50 per turn on them as well.

do you mind sharing? or is that a trade secret.

thanks for the insights and comments

That's top secret and if I told you well......... just kidding. The one thing I have found is that the things that sell best look very similar to existing products. I am pretty much doing this only with snack items right now, only in 5 wide machines with 5-8 columns reserved for organic and natural items so I am not taking away too many options from those that don't want to pay for this lineup. The gray/white collar type location is where the sweet spot seems to be. If you want some specific items PM me and I will send you a list.

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What's interesting is that H.U.M.A.N. is no longer a "business opportunity" but a franchise now. They converted over to a franchise just over a year ago. H.U.M.A.N. has grown significantly over the past 2 years.

 

One of the things that separates H.U.M.A.N. from its competition is it's machines. Where most vending companies offer a traditional coil based machine, H.U.M.A.N. offers machines with conveyor belt technology. In addition, their machines are actually quite attractive. If you haven't seen their machine line up, do it.

 

In the end, you'll want to align yourself with a group that is going to offer you the machine support and training you need to be successful and I've noticed that H.U.M.A.N. offers just that. The companies that offer coil based machines will tell you that you'd be foolish to go against "the coil", after all it's proven and more moving parts naturally = more money more problems. I haven't found that to be true in my research. If anything H.U.M.A.N. machines are just as reliable as any other machien out there.

 

 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that just because "Human" sells as a franchise now doesn't relieve them of the category "business opportunity", because that's still what it is.  You can't candy-coat a risky venture by calling it a franchise but, I imagine, you could better define a "territory" if you call it a franchise. 

 

In addition, an attractive machine does not a reliable machine make.  I would, as an experienced vendor, stay away from any newly developed vending mechanism such as "conveyor belt technology," especially sold as a business opportunity or "franchise," until many other vendors were stuck with potentially troublesome machines for a couple of years.  Then, if they were still being built and working properly, I might consider them if they proved to be better at vending products than a proven dual spiral machine with a vend sensor. 

 

I'm not going to argue about the reliability of a machine I've never seen, but I doubt that any "coil based machine manufacturers" have to worry about the competition.  I am very skeptical of a machine that claims to have fewer moving parts, fewer problems, costs less and still does the job of a proven vending delivery method.

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As community administrator, I am compelled to point out that this member works for H.U.M.A.N. so his "opinions" about the opportunity/franchise/machines are naturally going to be favorable.

Well with a H.U.M.A.N. Rep around let me ask this, do you guys mandate specific products to sell like the Fresh Healthy Vending guys or do uou provide a list of "approved products" to work from.

Either way, what criteria do you use to consider something "healthy" and acceptable to use in a H.U.M.A.N. Branded machine?

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Well with a H.U.M.A.N. Rep around let me ask this, do you guys mandate specific products to sell like the Fresh Healthy Vending guys or do uou provide a list of "approved products" to work from.

Either way, what criteria do you use to consider something "healthy" and acceptable to use in a H.U.M.A.N. Branded machine?

 

I'm really hoping they've got Crunchy Cheestos, Pork Rinds and Jalapeno Chips on that list - just don't know what I'll do if they don't  ;D

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I'm really hoping they've got Crunchy Cheestos, Pork Rinds and Jalapeno Chips on that list - just don't know what I'll do if they don't  ;D

 

 

Don't hold your breath waiting for that

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Cool machines but this would never work in Houston.  We are the fattest city and people get pissed  when I remove one column of  Hershey bars LoL you try and put in healthy stuff and you get complaints lol.  Maybe in Austin it would work

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We actually had a member at one time has these machines as you can follow his endeavors in the full line reports titled "Daniel Rubin Vending". A very good read.

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Well with a H.U.M.A.N. Rep around let me ask this, do you guys mandate specific products to sell like the Fresh Healthy Vending guys or do uou provide a list of "approved products" to work from.

Either way, what criteria do you use to consider something "healthy" and acceptable to use in a H.U.M.A.N. Branded machine?

Well its been almost 2 weeks since I asked the question.... so I guess we are not going to get a answer..... maybe if we all went running in with our checkbooks to throw money at him we could get a answer...... or maybe he quit coming around because we "outed" him as working for H.U.M.A.N ;D .

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I actually found my way here from perusing the HUMAN marketing materials and I'm glad I did. treadmill's suggestion was awesome, that Daniel Rubin Vending thread was awesome, left me wondering if it was a plant too.

 

I like the idea of having a support network in place when starting out, but they've upped the ante to a $35,000 franchising fee now and that's definitely a turnoff. Still, repair support, business support, and location assistance sounds very appealing. They also do have several competitors and some require less initial capital.

 

Then again, entrepreneurs are meant to wear many (i.e. all) hats at first. I think my first step will be to grab RTJ's ebook and go from there, but I am leaning towards either buying a one off machine that's already placed somewhere or a homeless machine and going through the ropes of finding it a location by myself. It could be a much more cost effective route of determining whether the industry is something that holds long term allure.

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I strongly suspect that their "Repair Support" will consist of:

1 ) "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

and

 

2 ) "Are you sure it's plugged in?"

 

followed by

 

3 ) "You need the left handed whatsamadingy grommet. You're in luck, it's on sale this week for $299.99."

Call my cynical, but...

 

...no, just call me cynical.

 

Couldn't have been said better..

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I strongly suspect that their "Repair Support" will consist of:

1 ) "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

and

2 ) "Are you sure it's plugged in?"

followed by

3 ) "You need the left handed whatsamadingy grommet. You're in luck, it's on sale this week for $299.99."

Call my cynical, but...

...no, just call me cynical.

I thought you were describing crane tech support
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